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Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:08 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:08 pm to Cheese Grits
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If UK hired a beagle as it's next HC, it would not surprise me to find it had 500K followers within a week. Look at how many former players have 500K to 1M + followers. A kid just saying he is thinking about playing ball at UK can swing 25K to 50K followers almost overnight.
Yeah the fact that Caliper made y'all relevant for the first time this millennium had nothing to do with it. I am not pretending like y'all aren't popular, but this level of popularity is due to y'all being successful recently.
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:09 pm to Prof
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So I think those ties with the new IMG company are very strong for many reasons. I realize IMG clouds the picture for the future but I just can't see them breaking ties, especially if the subsidiary that handles it maintains some autonomy and character from the Host days. It's also simply smarter business, imo, to add on as many as they can rather than suddenly drop conference ties.
Jim Host is gone and they burned the bridges when they moved to ACC country. Alabama and Kentucky were the last ones you would think would ever leave, yet they were the first to split from IMG. I agree about Dish, but that further supports my thinking, with old SEC ties cut - say Dish was sold to Comcast, and the old ties killed off - would Dish have the same relationship? These are individual schools dealings, and not the whole conference yet, but for the 2 lead dogs to switch that seems pretty big.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:30 pm to SammyTiger
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I am not pretending like y'all aren't popular, but this level of popularity is due to y'all being successful recently.
UK is popular going back to the 30's and 40's and tents to follow the 3 Indian gods in succession.
Brahma - Creator God - Rupp
Vishnu - Preserver God - Hall
Shiva - Destroyer God - Sutton
******** cycle recycles ********
Brahma - Creator God - Pitino
Vishnu - Preserver God - Smith
Shiva - Destroyer God - Gillispie
******** cycle recycles ********
Brahma - Creator God - Calipari
Vishnu - Preserver God - ????
Shiva - Destroyer God - ????
Just follow the quotes throughout the history from the 1930's to modern times with the popularity and national appeal over time. Though it may experience some highs and lows. As big as Cal may appear in this age, pretty sure Rupp is still the overall standard for national interest and Rick or Cal are probably 2nd and 3rd.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:32 pm to lsufball19
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Miles had 13 SEC wins at the same point in his tenure, so there's that
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:32 pm to psk_Vol
Hmmm...Wonder how long it would take Nick to get 150k?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:34 pm to Cheese Grits
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Just follow the quotes throughout the history from the 1930's to modern times with the popularity and national appeal over time. Though it may experience some highs and lows. As big as Cal may appear in this age, pretty sure Rupp is still the overall standard for national interest and Rick or Cal are probably 2nd and 3rd.
At the time, but we are talking now. Most people on twitter don't care about Rupp. shite 50K of them probably care more about Drake in the lockerroom.
Again we are talking about why Kentucky is big on twitter right not, not why Kentucky is a popular basketball brand. Alabama is arguable way bigger now than it has ever been, not just because of Nick Saban, but because Nick Saban has a traditional powerhouse playing as good as it ever has in a time with massive exposure.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:58 pm to Cheese Grits
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Jim Host is gone and they burned the bridges when they moved to ACC country. Alabama and Kentucky were the last ones you would think would ever leave, yet they were the first to split from IMG. I agree about Dish, but that further supports my thinking, with old SEC ties cut - say Dish was sold to Comcast, and the old ties killed off - would Dish have the same relationship? These are individual schools dealings, and not the whole conference yet, but for the 2 lead dogs to switch that seems pretty big.
Hard to say. Even though Ergen retired as CEO a few years ago, he still has ~90 percent of the voting shares and IIRC is still chairman. His successor as CEO is from Kentucky (if that tells you anything) and it doesn't look like Ergen has any intention of allowing Dish to ever leave his family. If it maintains over the years, it will probably wind up like Johnson&Johnson and family held for generations. And as you know, the Haslam's Pilot Corp will very likely stay in-family as well.
With regard to UK and BAMA leaving, they have the brand to do as they please and lately it's not unprecedented. UT and Notre Dame just left Addidas for Nike after many years - they were the CFB gems for Adidas because of their national brand footprints and both remained top national brands and sold extremely despite recent down years which is of course exceptionally important because these are usually very long contracts. They were also extremely well compensated.
It was thought we'd never switch to Nike because our deal was so lucrative. Well Nike decided to go all out this time to win the contracts with both ND and UT and won both contracts. The long-term/consistent durability of the brands had to play a major role in the decision since we are paid top dollar rather than in terms of our shorter term record. BUT we are also one of the few schools that has both football and women's basketball as iconic brands as well as a large basketball brand which is far better than our men's bball program.
UK is second to none in men's basketball and BBN is incredibly loyal to UK football despite the overall program history - it's a national brand and fan base that is very large. BAMA, OTOH, has obviously been a juggernaut in CFB lately, has a fantastic program history, fans who are also insanely loyal and a national brand.
It's a seller's market for teams in this position. I don't know the details of your deals but I'd be shocked if the split from IMG wasn't due to IMG getting outbid and/or a rival company offering more. IOW, the Benjamins.
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