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re: Bruce or Avery Johnson?
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:12 am to Tigerfan56
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:12 am to Tigerfan56
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Spo is a top 5-10 NBA coach
no he's not
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:20 am to AUTigermitch1995
Tricky question
Bruce is a proven commodity, but an established ceiling. He won't get much better than a flirt with the Final Four.
Avery Johnson is a gamble, but with a sky high ceiling if he can make it work in Tuscaloosa.
Wanna play it safe, take Bruce, wanna bet the farm, take AJ.
Bruce is a proven commodity, but an established ceiling. He won't get much better than a flirt with the Final Four.
Avery Johnson is a gamble, but with a sky high ceiling if he can make it work in Tuscaloosa.
Wanna play it safe, take Bruce, wanna bet the farm, take AJ.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:27 am to Lordofwrath88
Why does Bruce have a ceiling and Avery doesn't.
Dumbass Gump logic I suppose.
Dumbass Gump logic I suppose.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:28 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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One also has an NBA championship, but that's nothing compared to the elite 8 Amirite?
not as a coach.
His team's got MUCH better after he was fired both in Dallas and NJ. Dallas won the NBA title the yr after he left. NJ was 14-14 when he was fired and ended up the #4 seed.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:29 am to elposter
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Alabama has traditionally been a better basketball program than Alabama,
I disagree.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:39 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Why does Bruce have a ceiling and Avery
doesn't. Dumbass Gump logic I suppose.
Neither has hit their ceiling of potential yet IMO.
FWIW ~ I'd take Bruce right now, but I doubt the UA AD would even give him a glance and sure wouldn't have done it last year while still under the 3 yr show-cause.
I'm excited for both UA & AU programs. We've seen what can happen in this state with strong football programs - now we get to see what can happen with strong basketball coaches.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:45 am to AUTigermitch1995
No brainer, I would choose Bruce Pearl.... The man took historically mediocre Tennessee to a #1 ranking for one week and an Elite 8. That's an amazing accomplishment for a place like Tennessee.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:40 am to AUTigermitch1995
This is one stupid thread. Bama fans are happy with their coach and Auburn is happy with their coach. Both are charismatic men who will promote basketball in this state like it has never been promoted before. How can you compare who is better at this point. One played basketball professionally in the NBA until he was 40 years old, then went straight to coaching in the NBA. He has had success and failures in the NBA like pretty much every coach that has ever coached in the NBA. The other has coached at some level of college his entire coaching career, been blacklisted for getting a kid to admit something that didn't happen, taping it and turning it over to the NCAA to get another school in trouble, and was fired from an SEC school for knowingly committing an NCAA violation then lying to the NCAA and asking the kids father to lie as well. Pearl has the college coaching experience, but both know the game of basketball and the question of which is a better college coach can't be answered at this moment. I think AJ deserves to build a body of work at this level before we tackle this question.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:43 am to AUTigermitch1995
Little General
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:45 am to imraged
Bama tards talking about an NBA championship AJ was a PLAYER when he won one. What in the hell does that have to do with anything? Sly Croom had 3 SEC championships and a National title as a player
AJ was a PLAYER when he won one. What in the hell does that have to do with anything? Sly Croom had 3 SEC championships and a National title as a player
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:07 am to TheSwineAssault
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Tennessee to a #1 ranking for one week and an Elite 8
So.... he's Mark Gottfried.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:12 am to Lordofwrath88
One thing that gets lost in this discussion is Bruce Pearl's history with the NCAA. That alone would preclude Pearl from coaching at Alabama. We don't need that risk and the potential trouble if Pearl fricks up again. I just would not want a guy with Pearl's history coaching at Bama no matter how talented a coach he is. It's not worth the risk.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:16 am to 14&Counting
Agreed. Also, yes this thread is getting dumb.
BOTH fanbases are happy with THEIR guy. This is troll bait pure and simple.
BOTH fanbases are happy with THEIR guy. This is troll bait pure and simple.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:33 am to craigbiggio
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Who would you put above him? Genuinely curious.
1. Popovich
2. Carlisle
3. Doc
4. Budenholzer
5. Kerr
6. Thibodeau
7. Stevens
8. Vogel
9. Joerger
10. Stotts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:10 pm to NGATiger
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Bama has had success in the past bringing unsuccessful coaches from the pros and giving them free reign to cheat, so who knows?
Riiiight. Said coach is cheating NOW because he's at Bama, but was as pure as the driven snow while at LSU, a school that would never cheat...
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:17 pm to bamasgot13
This is basketball not football. We need to quit the mindset of competing against one another and start trying to compete against UK and Florida. They are the benchmark we should both strive to reach.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:20 pm to Patton
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Johnson knows next to nothing about the college game.
Well shite. I wish you would have told Battle this.
well, the question was asked. Bruce Pearl has built successful programs wherever he's been. Mid-major, Tennessee, etc- he has a system, he has been able to implement it, and his programs have succeeded. Downside is that he got caught cheating.
Avery Johnson was a quick, scrappy point guard who retired and became a pro head coach. He had short term success trying to maintain the prior coach's system (Don Nelson), but couldn't keep it up or build his own. Just like Byron Scott or Jason Kidd, he got the job because management thought the players would respect and listen to him. He has a good knowledge of NBA Xs and Os, but little to no real experience beyond that.
His own college experience was at a SWAC school that pressed and run'n'gunned (Southern). Never been involved in a bigtime program, little to no experience running college motion offenses or college defenses (zones, for example- those are "illegal defenses" in the NBA). Probably a good grasp of man-to-man defense, and the pick-and-roll on offense, and that's about it.
Avery is going to have to learn on the job. He might end up good, but it's a big gamble to take.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:07 pm to AUTigermitch1995
Ben Howland
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:17 pm to AUTigermitch1995
Hmmmmmm, NBA coach of the year…. I dunno probably Pearl, but not by much.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:26 pm to Mizzou to my Lou
We will find out soon enough. These boards are famous for exposing homerism.
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