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re: Brandon Allen will be All-SEC this season.

Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72186 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:08 pm to
If he's forced to put up numbers, Arkansas doesn't take that next step. The Hogs are at their best if they pound the ball and get game management out of Allen.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:08 pm to
I've been a little skeptical of Allen since he was still in high school. He has everything needed to be a great QB, except for the required mental state. Late last year he overcame that hurdle, so I'm excited to see what he'll do this year.

Also, I don't think Chaney was a good QB coach and every good QB has a good QB coach. Enos seems to be a good QB coach, so that bodes very well for Allen.
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
1187 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

The edge rush Arkansas will be facing this year will do him in. 

Fat is good at guard. Not so much at tackle. 

Nice weakness to exploit there. 

CBB seems pretty stubborn when it comes to size. 

You can actually be too big/fat coach.


Yep... Cause if there one thing Bielema and Sam Pittman don't know its O-Linemen.

And btw, all our O-Linemen have lost weight this year.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:11 pm to
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Also, I don't think Chaney was a good QB coach


But Drew Brees!
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:12 pm to
Chaney flat out wasn't a QB coach.

I bitched about the lack of QB coach on our staff for 2 years.

Bert went out at got a HC that had a great track record of developing QB's and was a pretty good Big 10 QB himself.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:12 pm to
LOL. Why so sensitive?

No need to ride anyone, Auburn has yet to lose to Arky under Bert (although to be fair most SEC teams fall in this category).

You said Allen was the most proven qb. He has a longer resume than Johnson, granted, but you are nuts to think he is more proven than Dak.

Dak proved himself pretty well all year.

Sorry but I doubt even most Arky fans on here would agree he is the most proven qb.

He may turn into the most improved, but that is a far different statement.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5591 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:15 pm to
Keep clinging to that 2 year winning streak

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:16 pm to
Lol.
No.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Keep clinging to that 2 year winning streak


Better than a two game losing streak.

Do you also think B Allen is the most proven qb in the SEC?
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5591 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:18 pm to
Not at all, but he is easily top 5 in the conference
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Proven Success will prevail.


And what exactly has Brandon Allen proven?
Posted by UTodd98
Tennessee
Member since Sep 2014
660 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:20 pm to
That title goes to Dak and it's not even close.

The two guys that can/will challenge him are Dobbs and Johnson.

Kyle Allen and the UK kid to a lesser extent.

Mauk and Brandon Allen on the outside looking in.

Nobody else in the SEC even knows who they'll trot out.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:21 pm to
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Not at all, but he is easily top 5 in the conference


I do agree that he could be, especially with the way that Oline and rb game might turn out. I think that is premature to assume he will be if we look at his last two years.

Again, my only issue was the rather absurd comment he is the most proven qb.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:26 pm to
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And what exactly has Brandon Allen proven?


That he can take care of the ball and make the right decision the majority of the time.

20 TDs 5 INTs

You know exactly what you are going to get with Allen, the others on the list not so much, hence the most proven.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5591 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:27 pm to
He had a bad completion % last year but his TD to Int ratio was pretty incredible. Arkansas will have a deep threat this year and it will open up the field. His % will go up
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46508 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:28 pm to
All I know is he'll be better than every QB on the LSU roster.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

He had a bad completion % last year but his TD to Int ratio was pretty incredible. Arkansas will have a deep threat this year and it will open up the field.


Again, I could see that happening just not sold on it. Just do not think he is the most proven qb by any stretch.
Posted by UTodd98
Tennessee
Member since Sep 2014
660 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:29 pm to
This x1000.

I almost feel bad for Tiger fans.

LSU would kill for a short, noodle armed, game manager at this point.
Posted by TruBlu4AU
Member since Jun 2014
109 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:30 pm to
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Sad to watch Auburn fans dick ride Ms. State, but when your coach can't develop a QB that is what you do, I guess.

Unless you are an LSU fan then you live in a state of denial with never ending reasons as to why your "5*" QB is consistently the worst in the league.


Right because Cam Newton isn't in the NFL setting records, going to pro bowls, playoffs and such. Would you like to know who his QB coach was? Gus Malzahn.

And don't give me that "all natural talent excuse" to downplay what Gus did with Cam.

At Blinn against inferior competition Cam only completed 61% of his passes for 2833 yards. He had 22 pass TD's and 16 rush TD's for 655 rushing yardage.

At Auburn against stronger competition Gus improved every last one of those stats. He completed 66.1% of his passes for 2854 yards. He had 30 pass TD's. He had 20 TD's rushing for 1473 yards.

So you were saying?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:32 pm to
His receivers have been shite the past two years, it was the weakest position on the roster after Petrino, who left plenty of weak positions to address.

This year he will have viable options on the field outside of HH, the route tree will also be less vertical and more to Allen and the WRs on the roster's strengths.

We haven't seen a crossing pattern ran on the field in two years.
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