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re: Blind resume - SEC Basketball Coaches Edition
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
What you do is THE factor.
Recruiting, leadership, Xs and Os, game management are just a few of the attributes a coach needs. The guy who exhibits the best combination of those generally wins the most games. In the end, it's all about winning games.
Recruiting, leadership, Xs and Os, game management are just a few of the attributes a coach needs. The guy who exhibits the best combination of those generally wins the most games. In the end, it's all about winning games.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:47 pm to lsu711
But a guy who does more with less can arguably be the better coach.
Surely you're not arguing that it's not an important factor when looking at a coach?
Surely you're not arguing that it's not an important factor when looking at a coach?
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
The coach in your example excels in attributes other than recruiting. I would not say he is necessarily the coach I would want at LSU.
2 coaches are available to coach your team and you know this is how it plays out:
Coach A will recruit the #1 class every year but finish 3rd in the conference every year.
Coach B will recruit the worst class in the country every year and finish 5th in the conference every year.
Coach B wins more with less, but coach A wins more. IMO, this is precisely what is playing out with Johnny Jones relative to the other SEC coaches not named Calipari.
2 coaches are available to coach your team and you know this is how it plays out:
Coach A will recruit the #1 class every year but finish 3rd in the conference every year.
Coach B will recruit the worst class in the country every year and finish 5th in the conference every year.
Coach B wins more with less, but coach A wins more. IMO, this is precisely what is playing out with Johnny Jones relative to the other SEC coaches not named Calipari.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:12 pm to lsu711
It's a decent point that Jones has been ok or even better than average as far as simple numbers in wins and losses at LSU (like he was at North Texas).
However, I think the main criticism is that if you're a fan of pretty much anyone other than Kentucky in the SEC right now, you want your team to get NCAA bids more than not and, more importantly, have a really special season every cycle (SEC title/deep tourney run).
Jones just seemingly had all the stars aligned perfectly for that difference making season and it turned into an absolute train wreck (even though his W-L record still looks fine).
Fair or not that's much more deflating to fans and potentially damaging for the program than simply being a coach overachieved a bit but was really "one recruit away"
However, Alabama did fire Grant for the "one recruit away" mediocrity as well:
Grant
Inherited a team that went 18-14/7-9
Overall Record: 117-85 (.579)
Conference Record: 54-49 (.524)
Postseasons: 3 NIT, 1 NCAA in 5 seasons
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:17 pm to lsu711
I wonder if OP really expected coach ys fanbase to defend his record.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:33 pm to agrunner
So who is who?I don't feel like looking them up
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:34 pm to CCTider
X is Frank Martin SC
Y is Billy Kennedy A&M
Z is Johnny Jones LSU
Y is Billy Kennedy A&M
Z is Johnny Jones LSU
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