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Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:53 am to sharpSee
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:53 am to sharpSee
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What are your sources on the matter?
The IPCC. The IPCC models all failed to meet the confidence interval, meaning man's influence on the climate via CO2 emissions is overstated. You are welcome to read the studies. They then decided to claim that the models helped strengthen their hypothesis, ignoring actual science. Man very well be the cause of any current warming, however until they can accurately calculate that amount, saying one way or the other is being dishonest.
CO2 lags warming as well, this has been observed through ice core data. It is just easy to track, which is why governments are so apt to use it. Earth has had colder temperatures with higher atmospheric CO2 and warmer temperatures with lower. The politicizing of this issue has completely ruined any chance of having a meaningful discussion on it.
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:54 am to Tillman
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consensus is overstated.
Only among conservative Americans. Nobody else in the world...nobody else disputes climate change science.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:58 am to sharpSee
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Also wow. Who are you to say what are the capabilities of scientists to calculate anything
The fact that there are things with our climate, like solar output, cloud accumulation, etc that affect our climate that we cannot accurately simulate or predict at this time is why I can say what the capabilities of scientists are. The fact that if we currently had the capability to accurately calculate the causes of climate change and how our climate is affected, we would have models that fit within the confidence interval.
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You do realize humans were able to deduce something as complex as relativity? We weren't so convinced of it until we sent satellites into space. The satellites had two clocks. One clock on Earth time and one adjusted for relativity, meaning because of the speed the satellite was traveling meant it would experience time just a fraction slower. Well relativity turned out to be the correct calculation.
CSB.
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Scientists have deduced the beginning of the universe down to a single point, the size of a golf ball. Don't ask me how, but I'll take the scientific consensus on the matter.
Neat. I'll never trust a scientific consensus that has abandoned using the scientific method.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:59 am to DuncanIdaho
this argument doesn't prove climate change theory is valid.. majority of people used to to think earth is flat. so what
i can walk outside and observe the climate is just fine and nobody is dying from it
i can walk outside and observe the climate is just fine and nobody is dying from it
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:59 am to DuncanIdaho
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Nobody else in the world...nobody else disputes climate change science.
Yes they do. There isn't even consensus among scientists. Arguing "scientific consensus" is the most unscientific argument ever.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:00 pm to Tillman
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i can walk outside and observe the climate is just fine and nobody is dying from it
has no bearing on the actual discussion.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:01 pm to Tillman
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i can walk outside and observe the climate is just fine and nobody is dying from it
It sure hurt a few people this past Saturday.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:02 pm to pvilleguru
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pvilleguru
Just read your sig
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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has no bearing on the actual discussion.
why don't you talk about the issue in the way you want and stop trying to control me homey
it is relevant that the climate is fine if alarmists are trying to scare people about it. they been talking a doomsday for 20 plus years but it never comes and doesn't appear to be coming.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:08 pm to pvilleguru
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It sure hurt a few people this past Saturday
i doubt the Ice age centuries ago was a picnic either. i don't think some warm weather is the end of the world, and people in south are used to it.
the global warming crowd has a vanity problem b/c they define normal climate as whatever they are used to, so any changes int he climate they see as alarming. but obviously the climate has always changed and there is no 'normal'. it is what it is.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:11 pm to Tillman
So you don't realize it's a gradual thing?
I think I'd rather have another ice age.
I think I'd rather have another ice age.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:12 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:13 pm to pvilleguru
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So you don't realize it's a gradual thing?
I think I'd rather have another ice age.
ok
if global warming is such a big deal, why does it poll so low as an issue for people. people aren't not buying into the alarmist propaganda.
this country has a lot of real problems, islamic terrorism, crime, cancer and other diseases, poverty, etc but the left tries to make an imaginary problem , climate change, as the important thing.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:17 pm to Tillman
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why does it poll so low as an issue for people.
Because the general population are morons? They don't care about anything that's further than 2 weeks down the road?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:18 pm to pvilleguru
global warming advocates argue like bullies. if a person doesn't agree with you, they are dumb or anti-science, etc.
it is not surprising Michael Mann of the dumb hockey stick thing has filed a lawsuit against Mark Steyn for disagreeing with his conlcusions.
it is not surprising Michael Mann of the dumb hockey stick thing has filed a lawsuit against Mark Steyn for disagreeing with his conlcusions.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:20 pm to Tillman
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global warming advocates argue like bullies. if a person doesn't agree with you, they are dumb or anti-science, etc.
So are you saying the average American is smart?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:21 pm to pvilleguru
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think I'd rather have another ice age.
Hopefully some more recent predictions end up becoming true. I'd love this as well. Won't hold my breath though.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:25 pm to DocYates
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They may be dumb hillbillies as you would like to refer to them, but they know a liar and a cheat when they see one.
Only if the liar and cheat has a "D" next to their name. The one with an "R" next to his name has turned into their hero.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:26 pm to pvilleguru
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So are you saying the average American is smart?
why don't you worry about yourself rather than other people. can you prove that you are smarter than most people? I don't think so
if catastrophic climate change is occuring, i don't think a tax hike by our government is going to save the day. lol that is the the 'solution', tax hikes.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:29 pm to Tillman
What percentage of the population can pass the PE on the first try?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:30 pm
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