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re: Biggest talent squanderer in college football - FSU or UGA?

Posted on 7/25/13 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

It's interesting that UGA fans will resort to typing "UT sucks!" -- in a thread that has nothing to do with UT -- instead of actually, you know, addressing the topic at hand.



Riddle me this, then, Batman. Why would a Tennessee fan even put Georgia in the discussion, considering Georgia is rated top 10 more often than not. When was the last time Tennessee could say that?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 2:50 pm to
If if's and nuts were candy and nuts we would ALL have a Merry christmas. Hey. YOU chose to live in Tennessee. YOU chose to be a Tennessee fan. Don't whine like a baby that "It ain't FA-IR!"

If you can't compete get out of the conference or don't whine.
Posted by l'affiche
Member since Feb 2013
378 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

nice grammar debate lol.. i admit that you've not been inaccurate, but i maintain that your original argument was petty and arbitrary.. demonstrative adjectives, got it, but we're talking semantics at this point, right? "this" and "that" clearly are not adjectives, a 1st grader could tell you that... they clearly don't "modify nouns"... could you explain to me the difference between a "tall" bridge and a "this" bridge? they're both adjectives right?? but, seriously, what are your thoughts on shampooing crotches?



"This" and "that" are indeed adjectives. The word "tall" describes the bridge, so does the word "this." It indicates (i.e. demonstrates) which bridge you are talking about. That is why "this" and "that" are called demonstrative adverbs.


Of course they may also be used as pronouns. "This is a good movie." "That was my thought." Note, however, that the use of these words, especially "this," as pronouns is generally frowned upon. You should generally use them in the adjectival form instead: "This movie is a good one."



Which crotch do you want to shampoo? That one.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 4:15 pm to
so now they're adverbs and pronouns, huh? seems like you specifically corrected someone on word choice even though those words confound the very rules you tout as law. this is a specific case where hard-and-fast part-of-speech categorization isn't helpful, yet we're talking about how they're definitely adjectives (of the demonstrative, adverbial, pronoun-ial variety).

GOOOOO!!
Posted by l'affiche
Member since Feb 2013
378 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:23 pm to
A word can change forms depending on how it's used.



The word "run" is typically a verb. I.e., "I run to the store."


However, it can also be used as a noun: "I ran into my neighbor during my daily run."


Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58133 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:28 pm to
Between those two it's easily FSU
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Texas, USC

Both are 1-1, on the field, in the BCSNCG. Both have undefeated regular seasons during the BCS era. Georgia has yet to make it to 1 BCSNCG. Georgia hasn't won a national championship in over 30 years. FSU actually has 2 national championships in the past 20 years, but is 1-2 in BCSNCG including the 2-13 game versus Oklahoma — and people thought 1/9 was bad.

FSU hasn't done anything in more than a decade, but they have arguably accomplished more than Georgia since Georgia last won a national championship.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 7:48 pm to
l'affiche, i merely pointed out that categories for parts-of-speech break down when you admit that one word can fall into different categories, i.e. what good are the categories of parts-of-speech if some words are exclusive to some categories and some words are free to jump in between categories? these categories must then be significantly arbitrary. this is why teachers now ignore sentence diagrams as you're wasting your time focusing on parts-of-speech categories that are incomplete descriptions of possibilities. they are not the litmus test of a perfected system. as in the question: what part of speech is "this"? you answered, "adjective", "adverb", and "pronoun". how could this be if the categories actually existed (of course they don't, it merely makes a rhetorical attempt at difficult description)? weren't they specifically developed to extricate this problem? my point being, the word came before grammar. these parts-of-speech categories attempt to organize but fail (notice the meaning would not have been changed in the previous sentence had i said "the parts-of-speech categories"

another question: if i had said "people who use said as an adjective should shampoo my crotch", would my meaning have been enhanced? obviously not (though it would have passed through your filter). due to the tricky nature of "this" and "that", to suggest that anyone on this board would have linked "said" to an "adjective" is wishful thinking even for a grammar nazi. my point, which, of course, you understood, was that the usage of "said" to simply mean "that", is annoying; as, like your criticisms, it seeks to pretentiously elevate the status of an ordinary sentence through a cliché. save this nerd-cool bs for the garden state and portlandia message boards.

as to the form of "this/that", use some common sense and ask yourself how sure you are that they're adjectives. through your corrections (which have interested and even educated me i admit) i'd agree that i didn't mean "preposition" as much as "article". i realize you have the book on grammar with a list that confirms "this" does not fall into articles, but what about the etymology? can you look at a 4-letter word starting with "th" and not assume it's closely related to "the", the most prominent article? i'm not exactly opening the OED to figure this one out, but i'd say it's no accident that "the" and "this" are tremendously alike in sound and spelling. they likely have similar origins.

have a test: which pair is more closely related: "the ship: this ship" or "blue ship: this ship".

again, the 1st-graders would win out.. only the sophisticated system of grammar analysis which boils down to word-play could tell you the second pair is related in any way.

this is now a grammar/usage thread
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 7:50 pm to
LOL two SEC titles. LSU has 4 in the 2000s. Richt sucks arse
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20313 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 8:00 pm to
UT sucks.
Posted by rowdyreptiles
melbourne
Member since May 2013
180 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 9:22 pm to
this is my kinda thread our rivals are so easy to make fun of

but seriously top to bottom FSU doesn't develop players well anymore, so i'd say FSU plus theyre in an easy conference

only thing holding UGA back is Richt, my biggest fear is him leaving and them getting a good coach

Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9449 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Biggest talent squanderer

quote:

Tennessee Fan

casty

To answer your question, it has to be FSU. They generally finish the season worse than UGA and they play in an easier conference.
This post was edited on 7/25/13 at 10:52 pm
Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3673 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:18 pm to
This is a no brainer. GA
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:28 pm to
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Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:55 pm to
Alex, what is Clemson and Auburn.
Posted by Mullen3:16
Nerlins, LA
Member since May 2012
4708 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 12:06 am to
UGA
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