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re: Bigger little brother move? ATPB or State's Elitedawg conspiracy?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:57 am to DanMullins4Life
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:57 am to DanMullins4Life
Never a disappointing thread when you are involved my friend :)
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:57 am to GIbson05
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The article never directly ties it to being Auburn fans but it was pretty well know this was link to the whole Red Dog thing.
I would be interested to hear how this ties into that
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soliciting a public employee to use of public property for private benefit
or this
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disseminating criminal offender record information and obtaining criminal offender information under false pretenses.
Feels like we could've had a lot more back and forth about recruiting players with criminal past.
Im not saying it didn't happen, i just don't think this article is what you're representing it as.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:59 am to GIbson05
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The article never directly ties it to being Auburn fans but it was pretty well know this was link to the whole Red Dog thing.
is the connection because one of the arrested is named Terry Henley?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:06 am to piggidyphish
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I would be interested to hear how this ties into that
Auburn fans were getting tag numbers of Alabama players/recruits cars and getting these people to run them to see who they actually belonged to.
Hoping one of the players cars came back in the name of a booster.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:09 am to GIbson05
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Hoping one of the players cars came back in the name of a booster.
Alabama and Auburn are both a hell of a lot smarter than that
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:12 am to DuncanIdaho
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Alabama and Auburn are both a hell of a lot smarter than that
Of course! You put the car in the mothers name, and the old high school coach pays for it monthly because he feels he should help the kid out, and the booster pays straight cash to the high school coach. Plus a bonus at the end for the trouble. Everyone knows that.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:15 am to MsState of mind
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It takes a special person to hang at Elitedawgs. The only two times I have ever been there was when my ole miss friend sent me link
Elitedawgs consist of Coach34 and two basement dwelling State fans talking shite and 23,000,123 Ole Miss fans breathlessly hanging onto every word.
The man is the ultimate troll and found a way to profit off all the hits the black bears provide and they flock to him like stink on shite.
It would be funny if it were not so pathetic.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:28 am to GIbson05
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Auburn fans were getting tag numbers of Alabama players/recruits cars and getting these people to run them to see who they actually belonged to.
Hoping one of the players cars came back in the name of a booster.
I understand your premise that you claim the article proves, I was interested how
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disseminating criminal offender record information and obtaining criminal offender information under false pretenses
relates to that premise.
I guess the assumption you're jumping to is auburn people in those positions used their positions and auburn fans paid others in those positions to check the cars, but that doesn't explain the criminal offender records, nor is it more than a whole lot of conjecture.
*I know this used to be a problem for city employees checking in on new and old relationships.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:34 am to piggidyphish
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soliciting a public employee to use of public property for private benefit
Auburn fans were asking/paying (soliciting) people that worked in police offices (public employee) to use the LETS system (public property since it was owned by the state) for their own gains or benefits (private benefit)
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disseminating criminal offender record information and obtaining criminal offender information under false pretenses
They were running players names thru the system to see if they had criminal backgrounds, anything they could find out about them. To run someones name thru those systems you have to have a legit legal reason. You cant just be bored and start searching names and see what comes up. Every name that is ran thru it is logged.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:37 am to GIbson05
Oh case close then. Clearly auburn. No other explanation.
But just to be clear, it's now expanded from running tags to find who owned the cars to find out who they belonged to, to searching for criminal history? I just need to see how far down the rabbit hole we're going to go.
But just to be clear, it's now expanded from running tags to find who owned the cars to find out who they belonged to, to searching for criminal history? I just need to see how far down the rabbit hole we're going to go.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:37 am to GIbson05
I'll also note that all of those charges expect one were eventually thrown out and the judge said the whole thing was a giant waste of money. Probably an Auburn fan
Probably an Auburn fan
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:40 am to cave canem
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Coach34 and two basement dwelling State fans talking shite and 23,000,123 Ole Miss fans breathlessly hanging onto every word.
The man is the ultimate troll and found a way to profit off all the hits the black bears provide and they flock to him like stink on shite.
It would be funny if it were not so pathetic.
What actually is funny is all those page views from ole miss fans are putting money in his pocket.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:42 am to GIbson05
I remember all of that Operation Red Dog and the "packet" shite. That was embarrassing. People were looking up info on Carfax, hiding in bushes and taking pictures of high schoolers, etc. I had the packet saved on my old computer.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:45 am to pvilleguru
It is almost like there are a lot of people who are so obsessed with anger towards their rivals that they do things that rational people find crazy and over the top. Even crazier is that these people exist in every fanbase, shattering the notion that membership in certain fanbases somehow transforms a person from crazy moron into rational, fair minded and normal.
Powerful stuff
Powerful stuff
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:51 am to piggidyphish
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But just to be clear, it's now expanded from running tags to find who owned the cars to find out who they belonged to, to searching for criminal history? I just need to see how far down the rabbit hole we're going to go.
I can help with this one. They were charged with misusing LETS and/or NCIC. LETS is a souped-up Alabama version of NCIC that returns all types of LE specific detail in response to a single query. If they queried a vehicle, they'd get at the very least hyperlinks to the owner's driving and criminal records right there on the screen. In a nutshell, it is a one stop shop.
Because it is so detailed, use is restricted to LE purposes only and that restriction is taken very seriously. Alabama cops and dispatchers are prosecuted all the time for misusing it. It gets beat into their heads to not even think about running someone for the hell of it, but the temptation is simply too much for many. Here's an FBI employee that got popped back in August.
Disclaimer: I have no idea if the people in the story were involved in 'Red Dog' and/or if they were running Bama players and recruits, just explaining the system.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:57 am to Cheeky Fellow
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Powerful stuff
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:08 am to pvilleguru
I know for a fact that the pictures of Dre's Car were taken by teammates and flouted around thru texts. I love the story about a PI and how one had to be used to uncover things. Most of those people are over 40 and have no idea how 17 year olds behave or communicate.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:22 am to Irons Puppet
The black and white, grainy photo taken through bushes of Harris getting into his car sure wasn't taken by teammates.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:28 am to JustGetItRight
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I have no idea if the people in the story were involved in 'Red Dog' and/or if they were running Bama players and recruits, just explaining the system.
That's all we're discussing.
I don't think anyone is disputing the merits of the crime.
Again i don't doubt that there have been nefarious things done by auburn fans, I'm just saying that article is shite for proof.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:37 am to piggidyphish
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I'm just saying that article is shite for proof.
Agreed.
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