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re: Best RB in SEC so far

Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:45 am to
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:45 am to
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Wow, this thread is terrible.

There are a lot of good, even great backs. Why does anyone need to put one down to make his/her favorite back look good?

Dyer, Latimore, Ingram, Richardson, et al are good/great.

The challenge is that each one has to overcome different obstacles, making it difficult to say one is completely better than the other.


Ding.

Beyond that, Vandy should give the ball to Warren Norman more.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9132 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:46 am to
Then don't fault Latt for playing the in the SECe.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:47 am to
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Having more yards on significantly less carries is a pretty good case for Dyer at least being on par with Lattimore.


I understand he's got some weapons around him, but still. Watching him play he's got the best vision in a RB I've seen in a while.


He's looked good the last few weeks. He's got a really good blend of speed and power.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Ingram
Richardson
Latimore


That would be my top three followed by Knile Davis.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:49 am to
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That would be my top three followed by Knile Davis.


He's looked good recently but he doesn't have the same burst Dyer has in my opinion.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:50 am to
I'd take Dyer. Choctaw prolly would too, he'll correct me quickly though if I'm wrong.

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:50 am to
A far more interesting argument is ranking SEC WRs, because there are a plethora of great ones this year.


A.J. Green
Alshon Jeffrey
Darvin Adams
Julio Jones
Terrence Toliver
Justin Hunter
Greg Childs

etc.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:50 am to
Dyer is really good but he and Lattimore are in very different offenses and I think that Auburn's offense gives Dyer a bit of an advantage in terms of being able to put up big numbers. Lattimore is a feature back in a balanced offense, whereas Dyer is one of many very good runners in a heavily run-oriented offense. Dyer benefits from the defense having to be spread out to try to cover all of the threats.

If you interchanged Dyer and Lattimore I think they might just swap their stats. It would be close. This is a case of it being really hard to make a fair comparison between the two because their circumstances are so different.

Either way, they're both very good and I think they will have good SEC careers. We might be able to make a real comparison in a year or two after Cam Newton is gone and Malzahn has moved on (which seems likely... you don't have that much success and stay an offensive coordinator).
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40275 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:51 am to
I only faulted latt cause you said the only reason dyer was doing good is cause of Cam. Which is false. You don't rush for over 7k yards in HS and not be good.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:51 am to
For clarification, by 'burst' do you mean 'acceleration'? Just wondering.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:51 am to
Lattimore.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Having more yards on significantly less carries is a pretty good case for Dyer at least being on par with Lattimore.


I understand he's got some weapons around him, but still. Watching him play he's got the best vision in a RB I've seen in a while.


Ross, if you are going to argue on a yards per carry basis, you need to include Knile Davis who is averaging 6.5 yards per carry and remember, Knile is a year younger than Dyer.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:52 am to
That's true, but we are talking about Arkansas 5A. His competition was not that great. But he's undoubtedly a very good RB.
Posted by nativetiger
Member since Jan 2007
2196 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:54 am to
IMNSHO, I don't think Lattimore is that good. He isn't very fast and our awful defense shut him down.

He'll probably fade to an afterthought after this season.....
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:54 am to
I know the story of the Arkansas/Auburn game was Tyler Wilson, but Knile Davis had a really good day.

He's come into his own recently. He'll be very good.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I'd take Dyer. Choctaw prolly would too, he'll correct me quickly though if I'm wrong.




Over Latimore, Ingram, or Richardson? Are you really stupid or just pretending?
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:57 am to
JMHO, but Knile Davis will be up there at the end of the season.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:57 am to
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IMNSHO, I don't think Lattimore is that good. He isn't very fast and our awful defense shut him down.


I'm not sure I've been watching the same guy.

A defense can scheme to stop a RB. You guys stop Ingram last year and he's good.

Lattimore is going to have a good career. Honestly if you've got Ingram, Richardson, Lattimore, or Dyer, then RB is not going to be a weakness.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:58 am to
quote:

I know the story of the Arkansas/Auburn game was Tyler Wilson, but Knile Davis had a really good day.

He's come into his own recently. He'll be very good.


He is looking better and better every game. Just imagine what he will look like next year when he turns 20.
Posted by Buck Sweep
Member since Oct 2010
853 posts
Posted on 10/31/10 at 11:59 am to
From SEC.com

RK PLAYER TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG TD
1 Cameron Newton, QB AUB 168 1122 6.7 71 14
2 Stevan Ridley, RB LSU 152 723 4.8 65 6
Michael Dyer, RB AUB 120 723 6.0 38 4
4 Marcus Lattimore, RB SCAR 151 722 4.8 40 11
5 Tauren Poole, RB TENN 125 628 5.0 59 6
6 Vick Ballard, RB MSST 92 619 6.7 75 12
7 Trent Richardson, RB ALA 86 606 7.0 65 5
8 Brandon Bolden, RB MISS 103 591 5.7 71 7
9 Derrick Locke, RB UK 108 574 5.3 56 7
10 Washaun Ealey, RB UGA 116 563 4.9 58 8
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