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re: Best Coaching hire in the BCS Era(95-present)

Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:44 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:44 am to
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This should make for an entertaining afternoon.


Perhaps not as interesting as you would imagine. I think most LSU fans would agree with the first part of his comment, and the second part is clearly intellectually challenged.
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Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:45 am to
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This, and I think South Carolina's hiring of SOS should be second.


lol

What Franklin did at Vandy is 10 times more impressive than spurrier at SC.

There is no way that in the past 19 years of coaching hires, spurrier at SC is the 2nd best.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:46 am to
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There is no way that in the past 19 years of coaching hires, spurrier at SC is the 2nd best.



I can see the tears welling up, settle down
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:47 am to
Saban to LSU has to be #1. Not only did it put LSU on the map, it put Nick Saban on the map. If not for his success at LSU, he would not be Bama's coach today. End of story
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:47 am to
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I can see the tears welling up, settle down


dafuq? I disagree with your point so that means I'm crying?

Well alright..
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:48 am to
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He took a program with no football history and turned them into the football giant that Les is still riding today.

Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:48 am to
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dafuq? I disagree with your point so that means I'm crying? Well alright..



That's right, bro. This is the rant, you know this.

:inb4wheredidspurriertouchyou?:
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:50 am to
I think that Saban to LSU should be #1 and Saban to Bama #2.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79200 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:50 am to
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dafuq? I disagree with your point so that means I'm crying?



Spurrier took a program that sucked in every way possible and made them a nationally-relevant contender.

He deserves a lofty ranking.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:53 am to
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Saban to LSU should be #1. He took a program with no football history


Decided to bypass the hook all together and fish with dynamite instead I see..
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Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:53 am to
Way too soon on Malz. If you wrote that ranking in August 2011 you would have the Chiz on there
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:53 am to
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2. John Harbaugh-Stanford

They had BOTH Harbaugh brothers?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68505 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:54 am to
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10. David Cutcliffe-OM

Only reason this was a "good" hire was because it got us Eli. Outside of that, not a very good hire.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:54 am to
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Spurrier took a program that sucked in every way possible and made them a nationally-relevant contender.
He deserves a lofty ranking


Did I say that he shouldn't be included? No.

SC's history is abysmal but don't act like they didnt' have SOME foundation. Prior to spurrier they had yet another hall of fame, big name coach. Hell, if anything give Holtz the credit. To take a team that lost 21 straight games he sure did a hell of a job. They didn't get over the hump like they did with spurrier, but spurrier doesn't take that job if not for what holtz did. They turned into a 7-8ish win a year team under him and beat Ohio State twice in new years day bowls. Not to mention, as it relates to the topic of this discussion, SC has some pretty stout HS talent.

Vandy, on the other hand, has the same shitty history as SC but didn't have a foundation like spurrier came into. Franklin took one of the worst historical teams in football and knocked off a few of the SEC big boys. He also recruited fairly well at Vandy, which has never happened. There are so many "firsts" that he did at vandy it's remarkable. All this with an SEC powerhouse in the same state and not much HS talent.

I'm not saying Spurrier to SC is a bad hire or anything, I'm just saying it's in no way the 2nd best hire of the last 2 decades.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14522 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:54 am to
No Jimbo Fisher to the Seminoles on the list?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:54 am to
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What Franklin did at Vandy is 10 times more impressive than spurrier at SC.


Franklin did a good job but was only there for 3 seasons and only had a winning conf record once.

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There is no way that in the past 19 years of coaching hires, spurrier at SC is the 2nd best.


Spurrier has won 2 COYs at USC and this is the glory days of USC football right now.

When Spurrier wins 9 games this season, he wlil have more wins at USC than the last three coaches combines...and in 6 fewer seasons.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:57 am to
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Saban to LSU should be #1. He took a program with no football history and turned them into the football giant that Les is still riding today.



pretty much this. before him, they were a perennial 8-9 win team that had never done anything of true importance.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:57 am to
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Only reason this was a "good" hire was because it got us Eli


He would have gotten you a lot more had you not fired him so quickly.

He was the reason Tenn was who they were in the 90s and he is the reason Duke is who they are today.

OM set themselves back 5 years when they fired him.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:58 am to
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He would have gotten you a lot more had you not fired him so quickly.

Seeing as he was literally the worst recruiter in the SEC (Was also out recruited by fricking Memphis) and possibly our history, no he wouldn't have.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:59 am to
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Spurrier has won 2 COYs at USC and this is the glory days of USC football right now.


And what he's done was started by what Holtz did. Franklin started from scratch and did it himself.

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When Spurrier wins 9 games this season, he wlil have more wins at USC than the last three coaches combines...and in 6 fewer seasons.



If you're just comparing him to his predecessors, Franklin stacks up just as well. Spurrier has won a ton of games obviously, but has only 1 division title to show for it.

Franklin took over a 2-10 vandy team and went 6-7 with a win over ole miss. For vandy, that's a big win. Then went 9-4 with wins over Missouri, auburn, Tennessee, and NC State in a bowl game. Went 9-4 again with wins over UGA, UF, UT, and a bowl game. That's like the vandy equivalent of a BCS win. And like I said, he did that from scratch. Spurrier came into a good situation.
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