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re: best all time in sec for combination football basketball baseball?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:42 pm to craigbiggio
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:42 pm to craigbiggio
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Top 10 most NCAA Tournament appearances without reaching a Final Four
28 BYU
25 Missouri
24 Xavier
20 Alabama, Tennessee, Utah State
19 Creighton
18 Boston College
17 Gonzaga, Miami (OH)
None of these are Elite or near Elite basketball programs. BYU, Mizzou, and Xavier are ahead of Bama and nobody considers them apex predator basketball schools.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:45 pm to Cheese Grits
I know I'm getting lumped with the crazy person but no rational person would argue Alabama baskeball is elite.
They are consistently solid, have not had very many "bad" stretches, but have not capitalized on their best teams. Sometimes they choked (see Gottfried), sometimes they got unlucky (see playing the undefeated Indiana team) and sometimes they just lost. Either way, they didn't calitalize nationally.
However, consistently being good counts for something, more than 1 random Final Four and mostly mediocre to bad seasons (UGA as an example).
Alabama is to basketball what North Carolina or Iowa are to football.
They are consistently solid, have not had very many "bad" stretches, but have not capitalized on their best teams. Sometimes they choked (see Gottfried), sometimes they got unlucky (see playing the undefeated Indiana team) and sometimes they just lost. Either way, they didn't calitalize nationally.
However, consistently being good counts for something, more than 1 random Final Four and mostly mediocre to bad seasons (UGA as an example).
Alabama is to basketball what North Carolina or Iowa are to football.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:48 pm to tigerbait2010
All time Bama wins vs lsu in basketball 101
All time lsu wins vs Bama in basketball 67
Not saying this is only reason why alabama is better all time than lsu in basketball, But it proves that Alabama has consistently had better teams than lsu over the course of time because they have played 168 times and played just about every year they have had basketball teams.
There are outlier years ( like lsu final 4 seasons)
Also, Alabama is 2nd all time in sec in sec tournament wins, sec wins, winning percentage.
Alabama has more wins and better winning percentage vs kentucky than does lsu
Tennessee and Vanderbilt also lead all time series vs lsu
All time lsu wins vs Bama in basketball 67
Not saying this is only reason why alabama is better all time than lsu in basketball, But it proves that Alabama has consistently had better teams than lsu over the course of time because they have played 168 times and played just about every year they have had basketball teams.
There are outlier years ( like lsu final 4 seasons)
Also, Alabama is 2nd all time in sec in sec tournament wins, sec wins, winning percentage.
Alabama has more wins and better winning percentage vs kentucky than does lsu
Tennessee and Vanderbilt also lead all time series vs lsu
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:49 pm to OffroadSportsman89
Lots of moral victories and no hardware.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:50 pm to Korin
No, lots of actual victories, as in winning actual games. Just not enough national success. Is what it is
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
No moral victories, just a lot more victories over lsu than lsu over alabama .
A lot more sec victories than lsu
A lot more sec tournament championship victories than lsu
A lot more sec victories than lsu
A lot more sec tournament championship victories than lsu
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:53 pm to OffroadSportsman89
Alabama also has more victories over Florida than Florida does over alabama bro
We don't count moral victories
We don't count moral victories
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:54 pm to OffroadSportsman89
My last post: regardless of how you spin it, no one would trade LSU's basketball history for Bama's
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I thought y'all only cared about hardware?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:55 pm to Korin
Like every sports team in America, yes we only care about championships. Not sure how that contradicts anything I'm saying about our place in the overall pecking order.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:56 pm to tigerbait2010
If I were an lsu fan,
I would.
Think about this. If you were an lsu fan and you somehow lived 130+ years and watched every game alabama and lsu played in basketball...
You would see lsu win 67 times and see them lose 101 times...
I would.
Think about this. If you were an lsu fan and you somehow lived 130+ years and watched every game alabama and lsu played in basketball...
You would see lsu win 67 times and see them lose 101 times...
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:57 pm to OffroadSportsman89
I'd 100% take 4 Final Fours over win %.
We own the overall series with Florida too. Doubt they care much.
We own the overall series with Florida too. Doubt they care much.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:59 pm to OffroadSportsman89
pretty much all we care about are in no order
beating rivals, winning every game, winning national titles, winning sec titles...
Final 4s are no where to be found in the 4 above
beating rivals, winning every game, winning national titles, winning sec titles...
Final 4s are no where to be found in the 4 above
Posted on 1/26/15 at 9:59 pm to coachcrisp
All of those regular season wins have gotten Alabama basically nothing in terms of the national championship tournament.
Congrats, though.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:00 pm to OffroadSportsman89
You just said you only care about titles though.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:00 pm to OffroadSportsman89
In that span, you'd also see much better conference runs (which garners national attention), more conference championships, more historical players, and a MNC.
Head to head literally means shite if you want to figure out who has the better overall program. Once you get that through that gump head of yours, maybe you'll give it a rest
Head to head literally means shite if you want to figure out who has the better overall program. Once you get that through that gump head of yours, maybe you'll give it a rest
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I choose to believe this thread is an elaborate troll to get other fans to say good things about LSU basketball.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:04 pm to Hawgeye
Is it? Kind of repetitive at this point
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'd be ashamed to be an Alabama fan in this thread.
Just based on the reasoning behind their argument.
Just based on the reasoning behind their argument.
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