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re: Bertram Bielema is now 24-24 at Arkansas and 9-21 in conference
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:00 am to therick711
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:00 am to therick711
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The narrative that Petrino fricked them is false.
To an outsider looking in I am sure it does. Petrino did leave the cupboard for those that had to pick up the pieces after he got the boot though.
He wasn't able to stockpile recruits after those big win seasons and when a good amount of our talent graduated after 11-2 we were left with the scraps of a team and John L. Smith to make things worse.
He did the same thing when he left Louisville the first time. Petrino is a very good game day coach and with the right talent he will have big years. But the guy sucks at building up a program.
Petrino is the poster child for short term success and long term misery.
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:01 am to therick711
It is not where I want to permanently be but I am willing to be patient. Being patient is important for our program. We were never going to be a quick fix
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:03 am to LittleRockHog501
Petrino pretty much stuck bodies on defense for practice sake. If he didn't have to have them he wouldn't. He inherited one hell of a d at louisville, though.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:04 am to Arksulli
Arkansas mismanaged the transition. That is what set the program back. If Arkansas doesn't take a knee on 2012 by elevating their worst coach on staff, the recruiting works itself out. Look at LSU as a counterfactual.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:05 am to therick711
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Arkansas decided to make things worse by promoting JohnEL. The narrative that Petrino fricked them is false. They screwed themselves by hiring a dysfunctional idiot to guide them through the transition.
I'm not sure who we were suppose to hire in late April after all of this.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:07 am to therick711
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If Arkansas doesn't take a knee on 2012 by elevating their worst coach on staff
The fact that you believe he was on our staff at the time shows your ignorance on the subject
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:08 am to rockiee
Anyone else on your staff, pretty much. You could have brought Arthur home. Pretty much anything other than going with the laughingstock handpisser.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:09 am to rockiee
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The fact that you believe he was on our staff at the time shows your ignorance on the subject
I thought he was a consultant for Bobby. If that isn't right, my bad.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:10 am to therick711
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I thought he was a consultant for Bobby. If that isn't right, my bad.
No, he was actually a head coach at another school.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:11 am to rockiee
You mean he had just taken the Weber State job after serving on staff at Arkansas under Petrino and never coached a game for them? Come one, that's incredibly technical to get all high and mighty about.
So the point still stands, you hired the worst person off of your 2011 staff to handle the transition. Good work.
Come one, that's incredibly technical to get all high and mighty about. So the point still stands, you hired the worst person off of your 2011 staff to handle the transition. Good work.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:13 am to therick711
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Come one, that's incredibly technical to get all high and mighty abo
I'm not getting high and mighty about anything
It is important to point out he wasn't on the staff though. I not sure who you would advocate for promoting from the staff. The second choice was Paul and his head coaching record is 12-33 atm in 4 years at Idaho.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:14 am to therick711
He may win Division II this year. 
And he's right. You don't just find a 5* coach in April.
And he's right. You don't just find a 5* coach in April.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:15 am to rockiee
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It is important to point out he wasn't on the staff though.
He was on the previous year's staff. That's the point. Just because Paul might be bad doesn't mean he'd be the disaster JohnEL was. The fact that you don't think you could do better than that laughingstock is pretty sad.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:16 am to hogNsinceReagan
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And he's right. You don't just find a 5* coach in April.
You could have had Gus if you wanted him. You chose John L.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:16 am to YumYum Sauce
I think you really do have to throw out the first 2 seasons. He took Petrino's awful non-recruited scraps, ones that were also built to run a wide open spread, and had to build from nothing.
However, his last 2 years have been pretty meh. 14-9 (7-7).
But, in this division, what exactly should Arkansas expect? 8-5 and 4-4 seems like a pretty accurate spot to me, and that is basically what Bert is.
However, his last 2 years have been pretty meh. 14-9 (7-7).
But, in this division, what exactly should Arkansas expect? 8-5 and 4-4 seems like a pretty accurate spot to me, and that is basically what Bert is.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:16 am to hogNsinceReagan
He was our special teams coordinator but he was pretty much an assistant head coach. He was always spoken highly of.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:18 am to therick711
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The fact that you don't think you could do better than that laughingstock is pretty sad.
Where the hell did I say that? You make many assumptions
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:19 am to rockiee
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Where the hell did I say that? You make many assumptions
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I not sure who you would advocate for promoting from the staff. The second choice was Paul and his head coaching record is 12-33 atm in 4 years at Idaho.
You're basically saying you couldn't have done better. Anyone was better.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:23 am to Triple Daves
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I think you really do have to throw out the first 2 seasons. He took Petrino's awful non-recruited scraps, ones that were also built to run a wide open spread, and had to build from nothing.
Spot on, did Smith make things a little worse? Probably but not many coaches were going to succeed at that point in the year with what we could pick from.
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However, his last 2 years have been pretty meh. 14-9 (7-7).
But, in this division, what exactly should Arkansas expect? 8-5 and 4-4 seems like a pretty accurate spot to me, and that is basically what Bert is.
Agreed for the most part. His conference record last year was pretty good when considering how tough this conference is and has been. He just shite the bed in OOC that year. Next year will need to be a 9-10 win season for me to be ok with him going forward.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:23 am to therick711
We had a new DC and new OC and just fired our HC. Who exactly do you promote?
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