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re: Bammers miss Holman yet ?

Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:52 pm to
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Which you already said wasn’t due to Holman, and you called him “excellent.” However, despite calling him excellent and all the data presented, you’re still going to die on the hill of him being “not a known quantity” if at Bama this season.


I hope you aren’t a lawyer. Or if you are, hope you are a public defender that defends guilty clients.


It's a hypothetical that didn't happen.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11650 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:55 pm to
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You don't follow college baseball very closely then.


Without looking, who is South Carolina’s pitching coach? How about Alabama’s? Or Texas A&M? If you don’t know then you must not follow baseball very closely.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2958 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:56 pm to
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It's a hypothetical that didn't happen.


lol…that was the tRant version of pleading the 5th. I like it.

It’s ok, any knowledgeable baseball fan knows what’s true in this instance, regardless if you want to “say it out loud” or not.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Without looking, who is South Carolina’s pitching coach? How about Alabama’s? Or Texas A&M? If you don’t know then you must not follow baseball very closely.


A&M's is Max Weiner, not sure of the other two.

Jackson was your pitching coach prior to being named head coach however I don't know if he hired another pitching coach.

However, none of those are considered elite pitching coaches, Yeskie was.

I didn't know who South Carolina's defensive coordinator was in 2018 but I did know who Clemson's was because he was regarded as an elite assistant.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:01 pm to
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It’s ok, any knowledgeable baseball fan knows what’s true in this instance, regardless if you want to “say it out loud” or not.


I think any knowledgeable college baseball fan understands that Holman made the best choice with the information he had at the time.

Can't bash the kid for that.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11650 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:02 pm to
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Win-loss record isn't a very good indication of a pitcher's success, you continue to demonstrate that you aren't really a baseball fan


You poor bastard, you were just arguing that Holman wouldn’t have necessarily won any games at Alabama this year. I would say win/loss record is a pretty good stat to look at if you want to make that argument. And you are right, I don’t claim to know everything about baseball. But I do know you are a steaming sack of shite who no one likes, not even other LSU fans. Regardless of how much you think you know about baseball.
This post was edited on 5/12/24 at 10:06 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:07 pm to
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You poor bastard, you were just arguing that Holman wouldn’t have necessarily won any games at Alabama this year.


I just said it wasn't a known quantity.

2022 Alabama football was supposed to be a world beater with all that talent and experience returning but they lost two regular season games.

Just because something looks good on paper doesn't mean it ends up being good.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2958 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:12 pm to
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2022 Alabama football


Team performance dependent on chemistry. Starting pitchers are generally viewed as individual performances, barring errors from the fielders (which ERA adjusts for and is a better stat for pitching performance than W/L record as you mentioned). A knowledgeable baseball fan would know the difference between football performance and starting pitcher performance, not to mention that 10-2 with 2 last second defeats on the road is a terrible argument for being good on paper and not in reality. Maybe go to bed and try again in the morning, you’re getting owned.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
2864 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:13 pm to
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I just said it wasn't a known quantity.


The only known quantity in your list of opinions a few pages back was the NIL money.

Holman went to the highest bidder.

/thread
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2958 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:19 pm to
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I think any knowledgeable college baseball fan understands that Holman made the best choice with the information he had at the time. Can't bash the kid for that.


Wasn’t bashing the kid, just indicated taking a big bag isn’t always the best choice. Team loyalty with a smaller bag isn’t definitively a subpar choice, as you surmise.

Can’t fault the kid, but sometimes loyalty pays off over greed. In this case, it likely would have. I’m sure he’s not all that shook up about it.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11650 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:23 pm to
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Just because something looks good on paper doesn't mean it ends up being good.


It is funny that you, a LSU fan, would say a 11-2 season is not good. Seeing as how LSU has only had eight seasons in their history with 11 wins or more. Only eight out of their 132 year history. Five of those came under Les Miles, who was fired not for all the sexual misconduct that occurred under his watch but because he didn’t win enough. Now THAT looks bad on paper.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:27 pm to
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It is funny that you, a LSU fan, would say a 11-2 season is not good. 


Context is important.

11-2 is a good season.

It wasn't good compared to the expectations of that team, that's why both coordinators were looking for new jobs at the end of the season.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:29 pm to
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The only known quantity in your list of opinions a few pages back was the NIL money.

Holman went to the highest bidder.

/thread


It's a shame Alabama didn't ante up the cash to keep him around.

Jackson is putting a good product on the field, when are Bammers going to support it?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11650 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:34 pm to
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It wasn't good compared to the expectations of that team


This year’s LSU baseball is not good compared to expectations. They are also not good not compared to expectations.

It is a good thing you got Holman. He has five wins in SEC play, half of all of LSU’s wins. Without him LSU would likely be fighting with Auburn for 14th place.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:35 pm to
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This year’s LSU baseball is not good compared to expectations. They are also not good not compared to expectations.


No doubt. Thank you for proving my point.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
2864 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:37 pm to
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It's a shame Alabama didn't ante up the cash to keep him around. Jackson is putting a good product on the field, when are Bammers going to support it?


Your football coach literally said last week that they aren’t throwing money at kids to come to LSU.

When will LSU support football?
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
2958 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:40 pm to
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It is a good thing you got Holman. He has five wins in SEC play, half of all of LSU’s wins. Without him LSU would likely be fighting with Auburn for 14th place.


Ouch…lol.

Holman…unknown quantity…hypotheticals…lolololol

Sidewalk not having a good night. He picked an indefensible position and stuck with it, despite looking dense and ignorant trying to defend the indefensible.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
11650 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Jackson is putting a good product on the field, when are Bammers going to support it?


Alabama has the twelfth highest attendance in the country. Do you ever get tired of getting owned? You and Jangalang are truly sadomasochistic.

NCAA Baseball Attendance Through May 5
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Your football coach literally said last week that they aren’t throwing money at kids to come to LSU.

When will LSU support football?


He said he doesn't want kids who are only chasing money.

Not that they aren't going to pay their players.

Saban said a lot of the same things, Bammers were here agreeing with him when he said it.

Do you think Holman only left Alabama because of money? I don't.


Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31741 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:46 pm to
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It's a shame Alabama didn't ante up the cash to keep him around.


And here I thought LSU fans were singing Kelly's praises for not being willing to "ante up the cash" for players.
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