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Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:36 pm to hybrid3
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Subjective loss for USC as well.
AT Az St. 20-7. One of Kush's better teams that finished 19th in the Coaches poll.
USC was 7th when they beat #1 Bama by 10 points. USC was 2nd when they were beat by unranked Zona St by 13 points, later in the season.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:42 pm to The Nuts
Does ALA really claim the NC in 1973 when they lost the Sugar Bowl to Notre Dame? Really? If so that is fricking lame
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:48 pm to Govt Tide
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I stand corrected hybrid. I trusted bwbama on the UPI title and should know better. Having said that, you can`t isolate that game just like you can`t isolate Bama`s loss to LSU on Nov 5th. USC screwed up by having a bad loss late in the 1978 season while Bama tore it up the rest of that season after the very early season loss to USC. Regardless of the UPI poll, how do you explain Bama winning the AP poll and more importantly than that is why should Alabama fans feel guilty about claiming a national title that the AP (of all polls) awarded Alabama? It`s beyond ridiculous that LSU fans have resorted to questioning AP titles when that is the very standard that everyone uses to determine how many national titles a school has.
I have no problem with bama's AP title in 1978. Nor USC's UPI title.
IMO, the LSU butthurt comes from the bama fans (and I have heard it far too often) who constantly want to point out that "LSU had to share that 2003 title with USC" because the AP voted USC #1. And now that some AP voters want to award LSU the title regardless of the outcome Jan 9, bamaland has blown a gasket.
If bama wins Monday, I don't believe LSU should get the AP title. Maybe Ok State, but not LSU.
FWIW.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:55 pm to crimson crazy
Talk that shite to Landon's momma and you'll get you face slapped.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:57 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
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Talk that shite to Landon's momma and you'll get you face slapped.
I wouldn't blame her.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:57 pm to Legend13
Brando never went to LSU. He's a NLU grad. Know your shite before you post.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:58 pm to hybrid3
Hybrid, you are correct, but here is the rub... Alabama was ranked 2nd in both the AP and UPI behind Penn State. USC was 3rd going into the bowls. Bama beats #1 by 7 in the Sugar and USC beats #5 Michigan by 7. Inexplicably, the coaches (UPI) jump USC over Bama after having Bama ahead of them before. Bama beat their #1 and got the AP which was widely considered the more legitimate poll.
Arguing 1978 is not a legitimate title is beyond stupid. They were the AP champions after beating #1 as a #2. It was the same situation the BCS seeks to have now. Surely you dont think schools should only acknowledge unanimous poll titles. Do you count 2003 for LSU?
Arguing 1978 is not a legitimate title is beyond stupid. They were the AP champions after beating #1 as a #2. It was the same situation the BCS seeks to have now. Surely you dont think schools should only acknowledge unanimous poll titles. Do you count 2003 for LSU?
Posted on 1/7/12 at 9:59 pm to The Nuts
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Bama's Sense of Entitlement
Can't wait to piss all over it Monday Night.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:01 pm to TigerJeff
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Does ALA really claim the NC in 1973 when they lost the Sugar Bowl to Notre Dame? Really? If so that is fricking lame
They were awarded a split title that year. The UPI awarded Bama before the bowl game, the AP awarded ND after the bowl game. Significance of the bowls have changed over the years, along with how titles have been awarded. AP and UPI were THE standard then. Outside of 41', every poll title Bama has since the inception of the AP or UPI is legit. IMO, the 4 undefeated, untied seasons claimed, that culminated with Rose Bowl wins are as well.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:04 pm to Bwbama
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Arguing 1978 is not a legitimate title is beyond stupid. They were the AP champions after beating #1 as a #2. It was the same situation the BCS seeks to have now. Surely you dont think schools should only acknowledge unanimous poll titles. Do you count 2003 for LSU?
See my earlier post.
No problem with the AP '78 going to bama, or the UPI '78 going to USC.
IMO, since the inception of the BCS, that is the only one that counts.
Like 2003.
But, bammers luvvv to point out that LSU "had to share the '03 title with USC" but their collective mind has been lost with the thought that LSU or Ok St could get the AP title this year.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:04 pm to hybrid3
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I trusted bwbama on the UPI title and should know better
Got 1978 and 79 mixed up as the 78 Sugar Bowl was in 79. Bama was unanimous for the 79 season. It happens. I was 13 at the time and going on memory. Easy to get two years mixed up when you win back to back Sugars and NC's.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:12 pm to hybrid3
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But, bammers luvvv to point out that LSU "had to share the '03 title with USC" but their collective mind has been lost with the thought that LSU or Ok St could get the AP title this year.
Totally different situations. Bama won the 1 vs 2 matchup in 78. Today, people are suggesting that LSU will win the AP if they lose a game designated as a championship. Dont think that has ever happened. But this is an odd year.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:36 pm to hybrid3
Since the inception of the BCS, all teams have started the season under the same rule that No.1 and No.2 play for the title. This year sucks for LSU and I would feel the same way most LSU fans feel, if the roles were reversed, but this is how the champion is determined. The AP is irrelevant in the BCS era. I could care less what they do, if Bama is fortunate to win. You can have an AP title. the crystal ball is all that matters. 
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:40 pm to Bwbama
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Today, people are suggesting that LSU will win the AP if they lose a game designated as a championship.
Against a team they beat on the road.
Should LSU lose, they will still have the most impressive W-L record of the year. That has been stated by several AP voters.
Odd year, yes, in that there is a re-match of #1 and #2.
I don't think you would argue if bama and LSU had the same record, played ONE time, with bama being the victor, that bama should be voted #1.
That's USC's argument in '78.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 10:43 pm to HighBrowCat
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You can have an AP title
Don't want it.
Meaningless to LSU as you have stated.
The BCS is it for us.
Although Ok St will have a claim on the AP if bama wins close Monday.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 11:21 pm to hybrid3
The sense of entitlement comes from the Bear Bryant years, when they got one more SEC game than everyone else and was always vandy or KY, all the refs where from bama, league office still there. They were going win the SEC almost every year. Hell, Bear used to get drunk playing cards with Charlie Mac at his house before the games in Baton Rouge. One year he supposedly was so drunk and hung over that Mac's wife had to drive him to the game. But he never treated friend or foe like an inferior POS or walked around with sense of entitlement like bama nation does now. They were big brother and only in their down years or when someone got a freak like Hersel Walker did anyone else have a chance. Then he retired and died.
Since that time even if Bama wins this NC game they will be 14-14 versus LSU, and have the same number of NC's. That is tough for them to handle, that when they have a great team "little brother" can still beat them as they have not seen that before. Bear has been died a long time, but they have not buried him yet. And they haven't noticed that "little brother" aint so little anymore and is a handful, a rival, and this year more than they can handle.
Since that time even if Bama wins this NC game they will be 14-14 versus LSU, and have the same number of NC's. That is tough for them to handle, that when they have a great team "little brother" can still beat them as they have not seen that before. Bear has been died a long time, but they have not buried him yet. And they haven't noticed that "little brother" aint so little anymore and is a handful, a rival, and this year more than they can handle.
Posted on 1/7/12 at 11:21 pm to The Nuts
Out come the gumps with insults and canny innuendo.
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