re: BAMA's QB's next year...

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Craig Krenzel won the national championship in 2002 as a first year starter.

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And tOSU's offense was pretty crappy that year while they had a lights out defense. Krenzel was the ESSENCE of a game manager. Plus he had a great OL. Krenzel did start before 2002. He started when Steve Bellisari got hurt in 2001 for a few games.

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which is one full game and sparingly played spots more than your starting QB will have had, ( and not that it matters, but JJ did have the Ole Miss game and Arky start..)

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True. But does one game and a little more play time here and there really equal being such a dominant force next year like some are saying yall will be?

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with a 1st year starter

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Really, So Flynn didnt start the Peach Bowl game, a full 2 YEARS before the BCS game? Who was that masked man?

You now look silly rolling around on the floor like that

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Craig Krenzel won the national championship in 2002 as a first year starter.

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Todd Boeckman went to the national championship game as a first year starter.

Troy Smith went 10-2 and wont the Fiesta Bowl.

Pryor went to the Fiesta Bowl and almost upset Texas.

There are 4 good ones just from Ohio State.

Bradford went to a BCS game in his first year.

Matt Flynn won the national championship in his first year.

DJ Shockley won the SEC for Georgia in 2005.

1998 - Tenn. wins the national championship with a first year starter who replaced Manning (Martin).

Snead played pretty well as a first year starter.

Theres some pretty good examples in and out of the SEC.

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Not in the same sense as a Greg McElroy though who has never started a game and thrown 20 career passes in garbage time. Flynn started before 2007 and threw 78 career passes many of which weren't in garbage time. He also ran the ball about 28 times.

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Flynn was a backup that was forced to start a game. He was not the starting QB before the season he won the national championship. He was a first year starter. I don't see how making a new category of first year starter is worth anything.

McElroy is unexperienced, no one is arguing that. In 2007, Matt Flynn was considered a first-year starter. I hope you two aren't trying to argue that.

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Flynn was a backup that was forced to start a game. He was not the starting QB before the season he won the national championship. He was a first year starter. I don't see how making a new category of first year starter is worth anything.

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Once again, you cannot equate the two, they are NOT the same. A guy with way more experience is a guy with way more experience.

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McElroy is unexperienced, no one is arguing that. In 2007, Matt Flynn was considered a first-year starter. I hope you two aren't trying to argue that.

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I'm arguing saying McElroy = Flynn is downright stupid. Flynn had much more experience prior to 2007 than McElroy has had prior to this upcoming season, reguardless of Flynn not being an "entire year" starter previous to 2007.

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I'm arguing saying McElroy = Flynn is downright stupid

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I think you're arguing with yourself, thunderbird. Flynn was indeed more experienced than McElroy, that's unquestionable. All we said was that 1st year starters have had success in this league and others.