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re: BAMA's QB's next year...
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:46 am to arwicklu
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:46 am to arwicklu
After watching Pryor in the Fiesta Bowl, you cannot honestly believe that a "new" QB in the SEC is going to help Bama be dominant?
I mean, c'mon, the Big 12 defenses are accustomed to get lit up, yet Pryor was only 5 for 13. In fact, OSU brought in the experienced QB for their run down the stretch. Bama doesn't have one of those.
All new QBs in a solid conf will have enough bumps along the way to produce a gut-wrenching year. We had ours this year. Plan on the same for Bama next yr.
I mean, c'mon, the Big 12 defenses are accustomed to get lit up, yet Pryor was only 5 for 13. In fact, OSU brought in the experienced QB for their run down the stretch. Bama doesn't have one of those.
All new QBs in a solid conf will have enough bumps along the way to produce a gut-wrenching year. We had ours this year. Plan on the same for Bama next yr.
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Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:51 am to RobbBobb
It will be our offensive line that hurts us next year not our QB. McElroy is a Redshirt Junior and I think he will be more than sufficient at managing the offense. We are replacing 3 starters on our offensive line and you got a glimpse of what that will look like when we played Utah in the sugar bowl, and we were missing only one O lineman.
Next year may be a long year for tidefans.
Next year may be a long year for tidefans.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:53 am to BamaScoop
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I think they all need to partner up. They can make Hatch the business decision maker because at least he is smart. Lee can be the repo man because he is good at taking it away from you just when you think things are getting better and JPW can be floor manager. They can just surround him with great salesmen and just hope he doesn't frick it up.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:53 am to RobbBobb
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All new QBs in a solid conf will....produce a gut-wrenching year
Not all coaches will continue leaving them in like yours did. Not all new QB's will be throwing a pick 6 per game. Just because yall sucked out the arse with yours does not mean everyone else will. Snead had his moments, but looked pretty damn good this year. Pryor had a pretty solid season too. We'll find out next year what we've got, but it won't be as bad as what yall had I don't think.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:57 am to arwicklu
quote:I can understand being hard to watch but he reminds me of Matt Mauck - threw the most horrible passes in the SEC and then threw some great passes. His trade mark like JPW is he was a good game manager, which is a trait oof the Saban system, to protect the football and take what the defense gives you.
JPW is not a horrible QB but he is responsible for many more incompletions and turnovers than the WRs. Without the running game chewing up 200 yards a game and the defense stacking the box... he's tough to watch.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:14 am to Alahunter
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Not all coaches will continue leaving them in like yours did.
Uh, remember at times it was all we had. Hatch stayed hurt. We put JJ in the Troy game and he got one 1st down in 4 possessions, so he wasnt ready.
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but it won't be as bad as what yall had I don't think.
Which is fine, but other teams are looking at your fanbase now blaming JPW. You realistically think you'll have a better season with 2 guys that couldn't beat out JPW??? That doesn't spell hope for those of us looking in from the outside, jus sayin.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:19 am to RobbBobb
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Which is fine, but other teams are looking at your fanbase now blaming JPW. You realistically think you'll have a better season with 2 guys that couldn't beat out JPW??? That doesn't spell hope for those of us looking in from the outside, jus sayin.
I don't know about having a better season but I really don't think the QB play will be the main factor. If the O-line can patch up the holes left by Caldwell and Smith, then we'll be very good.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:21 am to RobbBobb
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We put JJ in the Troy game
He shoulda started the season and he woulda had experience late in the season. Now yall have a new season coming up and your most experienced QB has on full game and a few sparingly played spots in games. In essence, yall will be in the same position next year as this season.
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other teams are looking at your fanbase now blaming JPW
Just because alot of folks in a fanbase says something doesn't make it so. We said we were gonna kill Utah too.
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You realistically think you'll have a better season with 2 guys that couldn't beat out JPW
Who said anything about having a better season? I just said our QB probably won't suck as bad as yalls did. If ours throw as many interceptions for touchdowns as yours did, I'll come back and eat crow.
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jus sayin
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:23 am to RobbBobb
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After watching Pryor in the Fiesta Bowl, you cannot honestly believe that a "new" QB in the SEC is going to help Bama be dominant?
Pryor doesn't represent every new QB. There were some really good freshmen QB's this year like Griffin at Baylor. We'll either have a RS Junior or a RS Freshman.
I don't know what to expect at this point. I'm hopeful that whoever wins the job will at least be less turnover prone.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:41 am to arwicklu
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QB's this year like Griffin at Baylor
Big 12 defenses are known for making any QB look amazing. Plau Baylor was 4-8. Not exactly a valid comparison.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:44 am to RobbBobb
mcelroy will start out as the starter, but by season's end i think star takes the job. just too much talent there too keep him behind mcelroy.
one thing about mcelroy makes me wonder. back in the 07 season when jpw was tanking it big time saban didn't bring him in once to play. hmmmm.
one thing about mcelroy makes me wonder. back in the 07 season when jpw was tanking it big time saban didn't bring him in once to play. hmmmm.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:46 am to RobbBobb
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RobbBobb
How does it feel to have a black QB?
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:02 pm to RobbBobb
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Big 12 defenses are known for making any QB look amazing. Plau Baylor was 4-8. Not exactly a valid comparison.
The guy went 205 passes without an INT to start his career. He threw for almost 2100 yards, had 15 TD's, and only 3 INTs. He ran for almost 850 yards and had 13 TDs. He did this on a team that has less talent than any other team in the Big 12. The fact that they were within 1 score of Connecticut, Missouri, and Texas Tech was pretty amazing. He's really good.
However it's not just about Griffin. Plenty of first year QBs do fine. Plenty of first year QBs stink. We'll find out whether Bama has fine or stink in a few months.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:22 pm to arwicklu
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he's tough to watch.
Any QB is tough to watch getting sacked 8 times in a game and hit basically every play. Blame your crappy OL, not him.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:36 pm to LSU Tammany Tiger
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Scoop do you think he would have some job openings for Lee and Hatch?
I'm not sure I would be so quick to be cutting back on lifeboats before the ship even leaves the harbor. See, in this regard, RMS Titanic v. Iceberg (N. Atlantic, 1912)
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:00 pm to LuckyLee
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How does it feel to have a black QB?
Dont know, havent talked to anyone thats felt him.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:09 pm to arwicklu
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Plenty of first year QBs do fine
Depends on your example of doing fine. Individually or teamwise. Teamwise seems to be the factor, since its the 8-5 it what I hear the most
Wanna provide an example? Using 1) SEC schools or 2) Schools that were ranked in the top 10 (e.g. LSU '07, Bama '08)
I'll start. Fla, natl champion. Then the next yr, the 1st yr starter won the Heisman, but the team finished 9-4. Also, LSU won BCS, but with a 1st yr starter who led several comeback wins, but the team finishes 8-5.
Your turn.
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:10 pm to BamaScoop
what about this article makes them "look good"?
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:14 pm to thunderbird1100
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Any QB is tough to watch getting sacked 8 times in a game and hit basically every play. Blame your crappy OL, not him
+1
Posted on 1/6/09 at 1:30 pm to Alahunter
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Now yall have a new season coming up and your most experienced QB has on full game and a few sparingly played spots in games.
which is one full game and sparingly played spots more than your starting QB will have had, ( and not that it matters, but JJ did have the Ole Miss game and Arky start..)
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