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re: Bama "national championships" (with data)
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:59 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:59 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Probz because that thing was written in like 2005, and hasn't been updated since 2011.
Hey OP, NEWSFLASH:
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:04 pm to jim712
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1925, 1926, 1930, 1934
Everyone acts like we're the only ones who claim championships back in this era...we're not as there are many who do. And we don't even claim we're the only national champs...we were undefeated and played in the only bowl game they had in those years, winning 3 and the one we tied, we claim a shared championship with the team we tied...we had as good a claim as just 'bout anyone those years...
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'41
Wholeheartedly agree with you here. It's an embarrassment that we claim this one...
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'64 & '65
You can't have it both ways...in '64 they ding us for playing in a bowl game and losing...then in '65 they ding us because teams with better records lost in their bowl games while we won ours (and we beat one of the teams cited, Nebraska). And while I personally think Arkansas has a better claim to the '64 title than we do, there are plenty of other schools that claim pre-Bowl game titles even after they've lost their bowl games. See '50 Oklahoma, '51 Tennessee, '53 Maryland, '60 Minnesota, '65 Michigan State, and '70 Texas...
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'73
Hard to defend this one as we got beat in our bowl game against the "other co-champ" Notre Dame...
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'78
I can see an argument either way here and think this was a good year for a split. Yes USC beat us and at home to boot. But USC's one loss was to an unranked Arizona State team...and their loss came later in the season (shouldn't matter but it usually does). Both polls had USC ranked below #2 Bama before the bowl games and we played #1 Penn State...usually, when #1 plays #2, that's a de facto championship game but the coaches poll jumped USC over us while the AP didn't...
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2011 National Championship – Did not play in SECCG, 3rd in conference. 1st time in history of CFB.
While it may have been the 1st time in history that a team like that won, it was not the first time a team like that played for a national championship. Nebraska played for the 2001 championship against Miami even though they didn't win their division/play in their conference championship game...
The '41 claim is ridiculous...and compared to today's standard, '64 and especially '73 are easy to question/doubt...but I don't see much controversy with the other 12...
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:05 pm to jim712
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:09 pm to bama1959
Some will claim that there were none before this year since there was no legitimate playoff. So, is this year 1?
I would contend this year and future years with 4 teams are just as illegitimate. There should be a 32 team - or at least a 16 team - playoff to make it a true championship. Who's to say teams 5-16 couldn't be the best team in December and January?
I would contend this year and future years with 4 teams are just as illegitimate. There should be a 32 team - or at least a 16 team - playoff to make it a true championship. Who's to say teams 5-16 couldn't be the best team in December and January?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:10 pm to bama1959
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You guys melt more down better than any fan base alive.
It's bc this is an LSU site. Go on Shaggy/TexAgs for some other great melts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:24 pm to Old Money
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there are plenty of other schools that claim pre-Bowl game titles even after they've lost their bowl games. See '50 Oklahoma, '51 Tennessee, '53 Maryland, '60 Minnesota, '65 Michigan State, and '70 Texas...
Hell Notre Dame has several national championships where they refused to play in a bowl game. Regardless, this is so old and tiring.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:30 pm to StopRobot
So, Bama actually has two legit and unanimous national championships when they were not on probation?
Got it. Got 2?
Got it. Got 2?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:32 pm to jim712
And the obsession continues.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:33 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Like a fly to shite. Every time.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:35 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Looks like the rantards have skipped straight to the offseason.
Not much left to watch for them. LSU really is the worst fan base on the planet.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:36 pm to jim712
So they have four? Woohoo, we are just one away 
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:38 pm to jim712
Offseason for LSU already!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:38 pm to Old Sarge
OP, I know where this is coming from and here is another newsflash: SABAN IS NOT COMING BACK...
Let it go!!
Let it go!!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:38 pm to bama1959
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Since there was no final game between 1 and 2 guaranteed before the BCS era you got a lot of splits. But I will offer that the 1925, 26, 20, 34 maybe the most important in CFB. This is pre AP so you can make a number of claims. But these rose bowl invites and wins put southern football on the map. Also, a little known fact was that Bear Bryant as a young teenager in Arkansas listened to the 25' Rose Bowl and decided right then to go to Alabama. Since they really didn't award a NC back then there was nothing bigger than winning the Rose Bowl. So,I think it's safe to claim. No one else was more worthy. I'll give you 1941. I wish we would get rid of that one anyway. In my opinion all the rest have legitimacy. If LSU had a similar situation you wuoold do the same on every one.
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You guys melt more down better than any fan base alive.
Irony.
I was just answering the question.
And yes, LSU claims a pre-poll basketball championship due to playing in a one game playoff in 1935 billed as, "the American Legion Bowl National Championship game" defeating Pitt in Atlantic City, 41-37.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:39 pm to jim712
Melt...day whatever it is......
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:47 pm to 14&Counting
This idiot isn't even a noob.
I mean, the melting shite being thrown on the wall this week by LSU fans in regards to Bama is just unprecedented.
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Member since Aug 2006
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I mean, the melting shite being thrown on the wall this week by LSU fans in regards to Bama is just unprecedented.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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So, Bama actually has two legit and unanimous national championships when they were not on probation?
Got it. Got 2?
And y'all claim one while being banned from a bowl game.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:14 pm to jim712
Expose the Gumps
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:16 pm to BamaChick
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I mean, the melting shite being thrown on the wall this week by LSU fans in regards to Bama is just unprecedented.
Oh no, that was our nice comments. it gets better.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:17 pm to jim712
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