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re: Bama calling Auburn "cheaters"
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:27 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:27 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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CapstoneGrad06
Just glad I managed to use the quote function correctly on my first attempt.
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:28 pm to Evolved Simian
Epic first post. How long have you been in the compliance dept?
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:28 pm to bamaboy87
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The Albert Means thing is the one time Alabama got in trouble for cheating. We did cheat. We got caught. We deserved to be punished. I don't blame fulmer for it, because what we did was wrong(however I am pissed that tennessee was bidding for Means too and fat frick fulmer was covering his fat arse by being a "secret witness").
The textbook thing was not cheating. It was athletes that took advantage of the flawed distribution system. The NCAA investigated it. No money was earned from the books and they were all returned at the end of the year.
We've had 5 major infractions. It wasn't the one time.
Auburn has 7.
Arkansas 4.
LSU 2
Tenn 2
etc etc etc
We have over 40 as a conference. Other conferences have similar numbers but we're near the top. Auburn is one of the best but we're pretty good too... a little too good to be pointing fingers.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:30 pm to labamafan
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No different than the coach yall had to fire for cheating last yr or what went on with LSU basketball program. Besides most of these threads are being started by LSU fans from what I have seen
They are butt hurt. They have finally gotten by Saban and Bama to only have their hopes and dreams crushed by little ole AU.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:31 pm to arwicklu
You think Langham was cheating? He was being an idiot
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:34 pm to bamaboy87
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You think Langham was cheating? He was being an idiot
I'm not going to justify major infractions. We've had 5. Hopefully they're cleaner in the future. Much of the NCAA is dirty but I'm not going to justify my school breaking rules or not having institutional control. I'm glad they've improved the way they conduct business.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:34 pm to Robot Santa
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Not just textbooks, but textbooks that no one profited off of
Nor read.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:45 pm to NBamaAlum
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:50 pm to Bobby Moore
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What has Auburn done to cheat. Link.....proof....or shut the Fask up.....
OK.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:53 pm to NEWOTiger
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They are butt hurt. They have finally gotten by Saban and Bama to only have their hopes and dreams crushed by little ole AU.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:54 pm to SanFranTiger
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is the pot calling the kettle black? Yes or no.
Why do you give a frick?
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:02 pm to TigerC
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I'm not going to justify major infractions. We've had 5.
UA does have a poor record of compliance, particularly in the past twenty years, but if we're going to compare it to just AU, the term "major" is relative.
Of those five major infractions reviewed by the NCAA COI, only three warranted any sanctions at all. There was no action taken by the NCAA on the other two. Of AU's seven, not only have all of them resulted in probation, scholarship losses, television bans, bowl bans, etc., but every single one of them has involved the coaching staff (employees of the university) providing improper benefits.
To me, that makes it appear as though, while UA may have corrupt influences, at AU it's institutional.
Neither record is anything to be proud of, but 3 probations < 7 probations. JMHO....
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:03 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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CapstoneGrad06
Textbooks or 200,000 for a player?
This is fricking gold.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:06 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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1992 - Alabama wins national title
1993- Auburn goes on probation
Hahaha...
The shite started hitting the fan in 1991.
Don't let those pesky little facts get in a way of a completely wrong assumption though.
Tard.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:16 pm to arwicklu
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Auburn is one of the best but we're pretty good too... a little too good to be pointing fingers.
This is the first time in my life ive seen ANY bama fan make a rational thought regarding Alabama and cheating.
What I do get: The textbook BS was extremely minor
What I dont get: Most bama fans discounting the fact that the program was already on probation when faced with the textbook BS.
If you are on probation (period) you must remain "squeaky clean". If you dont you should be hammered. Apparently the NCAA doesnt take its probation seriously. It is what it is.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:19 pm to MoreOrLes
What *I* don't understand is the "pot-kettle" analogy in this case, where it's far more appropriate to simply say that it takes one to know one. 
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:28 pm to Evolved Simian
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UA does have a poor record of compliance, particularly in the past twenty years, but if we're going to compare it to just AU, the term "major" is relative.
Of those five major infractions reviewed by the NCAA COI, only three warranted any sanctions at all. There was no action taken by the NCAA on the other two. Of AU's seven, not only have all of them resulted in probation, scholarship losses, television bans, bowl bans, etc., but every single one of them has involved the coaching staff (employees of the university) providing improper benefits.
To me, that makes it appear as though, while UA may have corrupt influences, at AU it's institutional.
Neither record is anything to be proud of, but 3 probations < 7 probations. JMHO....
I agree, however I'm willing to bet that for every time a school gets caught there are quite a few times they didn't get caught. I'm not going to shake a finger at another SEC because our track record isn't something to be proud of. The whole conference and most of the NCAA is different shades of dodgy.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:41 pm to m2pro
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over textbooks... it was all one blanket punishment for some textbooks. so yeah, sorry if you were tryin to make us look 10x worse than we are.
but yeah, bama is gonna call auburn cheaters... because we benefit from free text books (not making money off of them mind you)... and they spend 200k on a QB.
i wonder how many athletes would come to our school JUST because of some.... text books.
I'm confused I thought you said you had absolutely no tolerance for cheating? Oh unless it is Crimson and white....Hypocracy anyone?...LOL priceless.... you sir have no credibility. Its not as if you really had any to begin with, but just saying
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:43 pm to arwicklu
quote:This is inaccurate.
Of AU's seven, not only have all of them resulted in probation, scholarship losses, television bans, bowl bans, etc., but every single one of them has involved the coaching staff (employees of the university) providing improper benefits.
The 1980 football probation was merely an extention of the existing probationary period by one year, and was the result of actions by a single individual booster, uncovered and reported to the NCAA by the AU coaching staff.
The 2004 basketball probation was due to the NCAA determining that an AAU basketball (Mark Komara) was somehow a "representative of AU interests".
Posted on 11/22/10 at 6:50 pm to cyde
Im guessing the OP is comparing Bama's past transgressions to the current situation in Auburn........meaning both schools cheat quite a bit.
Fair or not that will be how many view both schools although I certainly see what you are saying.
Fair or not that will be how many view both schools although I certainly see what you are saying.
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