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re: Auburn's athletic dept. operated at a deficit of $866,000 last year'
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:36 pm to Smoke7024
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:36 pm to Smoke7024
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What that article doesn't tell you is that these are unused tickets from players' families, high school coaches, etc. and aren't "available" for resale until the last minute.
Because that's not what the issue is here.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:37 pm to Toddy
Thank you for your interest in our program. If you would like, I can have someone from Tigers Unlimited contact you with information on buying season tickets.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:38 pm to DuncanIdaho
This AU blogger isn't too happy...
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While the nominal premise of the story is the difficulty of turning a profit in big-time college football, the underlying notion, that there are dozens (or hundreds!) of unsold prime seats in Jordan-Hare Stadium for any game, forget the biggest games of the year, stinks to high heaven. Everything in the lower bowl has been officially sold out to season ticket holders or visitor allotments for decades.
Even in "bad" years, the only unsold seats in that stadium should be in the upper corners of the decks, or from unsold visitor seats (the latter of which doesn't exist for any UGA or Alabama game). If somebody between the 30's dropped their tickets because of a bad year (or any other reason), all that should have caused is a ripple of people with lower priority than them moving over to take those seats. Under no circumstances should they be showing up as "unsold," especially after the season starts.
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And that doesn't even touch on the Athletic Director's lake-house buddy getting the option to buy 60 face-value tickets to the Oregon BCS game in 2010 (market value well into the six figures) or 118 extra Georgia and 62 extra Alabama tickets in 2013... that's way beyond the pale. A lot of people who read this jumped through a great many hoops and paid a great many dollars just to get one or two tickets to those games.
They deserve a much better explanation than, "Well shucks, this was just a good way to keep opposing fans from getting them.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:39 pm to RT1941
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Why the hell does the Wall Street Journal have such a hard on for AU?
Homophobes.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:39 pm to Toddy
What's the issue then? The athletic department not allowing scalpers to buy tickets for premium seats? Either way, they call on the donors because they need quick turnaround.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:39 pm to AUCatfish
A lot of us and UGA fans did the last few years when you sold your mini packages. Auburn didn't want that happening again.
Still get emails from Tigers Unlimited and TN athletic foundation.
Still get emails from Tigers Unlimited and TN athletic foundation.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:41 pm to Smoke7024
I'm not saying there is a problem but as someone posted above if you are going to do something like move large chunks of tickets without offering them at face value to the public you should probably make sure it is pretty transparent. Giving someone 20 tickets at face for one of the most expensive games of the year presents some series arms length transaction questions due to the possibility of quick sales to scalper a by those donors for their own gain, not to mention not allowing auburn donors outside of a group of 15 mega donors an opportunity.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:42 pm to Smoke7024
quote:So the donors make the extra money by scalping them thru 3rd party sources?
What's the issue then? The athletic department not allowing scalpers to buy tickets for premium seats? Either way, they call on the donors because they need quick turnaround.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:45 pm to dallasga6
It's just a small town good ole boy way of doing things, not a large corporation way. And SEC athletic departments should operate like Fortune 500s. That's all really.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:49 pm to dallasga6
That's an assumption on your part. Saw a large donor at the Iron Bowl last year with 20 tickets for sale for face. I don't know how he got the tickets, but I'm guessing it may be the same deal.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I think they should be able to do whatever they want to. If they choose to burn them, so be it.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:52 pm to Smoke7024
Yea - but the job of the AD is to disclose things like that and have structure in place to point to to show they have a reliable system they use to deal with situations like this. It takes assumption out of the equation. That's how big business (and their control systems) work.
You don't just on the fly decide "gaw dang don't want a bunch of bammers in here quick call the donors and sell these 1,000 tickets".
Just not a good look and not good processes for an organization dealing with this much (donated) money.
You don't just on the fly decide "gaw dang don't want a bunch of bammers in here quick call the donors and sell these 1,000 tickets".
Just not a good look and not good processes for an organization dealing with this much (donated) money.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:52 pm to Smoke7024
quote:Well... Obviously I'm gonna assume the worst, right?....
That's an assumption on your part.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
How does Alabama handle things like that then?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:54 pm to dallasga6
And that is why an organization has systems to point to to show why they did what they and they do it consistently, regardless of game, season or number of tickets
If they do the same thing for UT Martin as they do for UGA with unused tickets then they can easily say "see, this is our consistent process". No issues, no believable assumptions to be made.
This is just small time.
If they do the same thing for UT Martin as they do for UGA with unused tickets then they can easily say "see, this is our consistent process". No issues, no believable assumptions to be made.
This is just small time.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:56 pm to Smoke7024
I have no idea how Alabama handles it.
My hope is they have a control system in place that lays out the process for unused tickets for every game. Based on my knowledge, I believe they put unused tickets on our website for public sale. My hope would be this is consistently done whether it's Western Carolina or Auburn. If not, it needs to be changed.
My hope is they have a control system in place that lays out the process for unused tickets for every game. Based on my knowledge, I believe they put unused tickets on our website for public sale. My hope would be this is consistently done whether it's Western Carolina or Auburn. If not, it needs to be changed.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:57 pm to dallasga6
Yeah, I don't think the story here is simply we didn't sell tickets to big games.
The story is that we had prime seating that wasn't made available to Auburn people generally, but instead passed in bulk to people close to the AD.
The blogger is right, AU has no issue in selling good tickets. The issue is in selling 90 dollar tickets at the top of the decks that you can get for 75 bucks a few minutes from kick.
The story is that we had prime seating that wasn't made available to Auburn people generally, but instead passed in bulk to people close to the AD.
The blogger is right, AU has no issue in selling good tickets. The issue is in selling 90 dollar tickets at the top of the decks that you can get for 75 bucks a few minutes from kick.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:58 pm to Pettifogger
Lack of consistent controls and systems is what leads to people taking advantage and causing fraud. Accounting/Financial Systems and Controls 101.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So they load tickets last minute (a day before the game) on the website and get those out to the people that ordered them. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:02 pm to Smoke7024
Yes, and if they don't sell them they sell them at the gate before the game. And if that doesn't sell them you eat the cost.
Again, this is a Fortune 500 company, not a local hardware store. You don't just randomly make things up as you go along.
However, the Auburn people quoted made it clear this wasn't ability inability to sell the tickets, it was about a fear that a public sale would put them in the hands of scalpers and/or UA/UGA people, which also meant it kept them out of the hands of non-1% AU people.
Again, this is a Fortune 500 company, not a local hardware store. You don't just randomly make things up as you go along.
However, the Auburn people quoted made it clear this wasn't ability inability to sell the tickets, it was about a fear that a public sale would put them in the hands of scalpers and/or UA/UGA people, which also meant it kept them out of the hands of non-1% AU people.
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