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re: Auburn still only claims 1957 and 2010

Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:31 pm to
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You can spin this shite six ways from Sunday, but in reality, until the NCAA puts rules in place for back dated NC claims, this discussion will not be resolved.



The NCAA has a list of football polls it considers legitimate and lists Alabama as being champions of college football for 1925, 1926 and 1930.

This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:33 pm to
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The NCAA has a list of football polls it considers legitimate and lists Alabama as being champions of college football for 1925, 1926 and


If that was a prerequisite then LSU could claim 4 more but we don't.
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:40 pm to
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If that was a prerequisite then LSU could claim 4 more but we don't.


Sounds like an LSU problem then don't it?

Your basically saying BAMA has to claim theirs the same way LSU does, or it's bogus. Maybe LSU needs to claim the way BAMA does.

If not then be happy with the way LSU does it, and we will be happy the way BAMA does it.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:43 pm to
You are the epitome of the phrase Johhny come lately, go back and read what the argument is really about before jumping in on something you know nothing about
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:03 pm to
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1926 was not retroactive. Dickinson was around back then and awarded the title to Alabama and Stanford since they tied in the Rose Bowl.

They awarded it to Stanford and NOT Alabama. I'm looking at the records book right now (page 77).
Posted by NoBovineIntervention
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:06 pm to
I don't have a problem with teams claiming title before the AP, but would go with the AP up until the BCS and then go with them, since the AP ripped LSU off in 2003.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:08 pm to
Nobody should claim anything before 1926 because everything before then was retroactive.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:18 pm to
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I don't have a problem with teams claiming title before the AP, but would go with the AP up until the BCS and then go with them, since the AP ripped LSU off in 2003.


Neither do I, the argument started over Notre Dame claiming 11 and why Bama was even claiming the amount they do, then somehow it became about defining what is legitimate or not. Simply put, some dude who wrote a publication on Game day at Bama thought it was worth claiming and now it is. Before then they only claimed 6. I am sure the old regime had their reasons why they didn't claim them in the first place
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:19 pm to
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They awarded it to Stanford and NOT Alabama. I'm looking at the records book right now (page 77).



You're right. I misread the article I got my information from.

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In 1926, Stanford finished ranked No. 1, Lafayette finished ranked No. 4 and Alabama finished ranked No. 10. This was a ludicrous disparity considering the fact that Alabama and Stanford tied in the Rose Bowl at the end of that season.




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This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:24 pm to
According to the latest records book, here's what every SEC program could technically claim:

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:28 pm to
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According to the latest records book, here's what every SEC program could technically claim:



I don't see the problem with retroactive national titles that occurred before the so-called "Poll Era."

There were some truly great teams and legendary coaches in the 1920s and early-1930s. By eliminating those years from the record books, you are essentially eliminating three quarters of a century of college football.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:30 pm to
Good thing I didn't eliminate them.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:36 pm to
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There were some truly great teams and legendary coaches in the l920s and early-1930s. By eliminating those years from the record books, you are essentially eliminating three quarters of a century of college football.


There were a lot of casualties in WWI and WWII that would have contributed to college football but never got the chance nor the recognition. At some point there has to be a cut off. College basketball is a prime example does not count or record anything up until the first NCAA tournament in 1939. The game has been around much longer than that
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:52 pm to
Has to do with the NCAAs fight with the NIT doesn't it?

I have always wondered why people have such a problem with Bama claiming MNCs for teams that went undefeated and won the Rose Bowl.
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:44 pm to
What I said was correct, I can't help you if your feelings got hurt.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:18 pm to
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What I said was correct, I can't help you if your feelings got hurt.


No, what you did was show how stupid you are.

ROLL TIDE
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:21 pm to
No what you are doing is showing how jealous, and childish you are.

ROLL TIDE....
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:25 pm to
Good! I didn't like the fact that we might begin to "claim" more NC's. Auburn has been named NC's 9 times, but only 2 were from legit polls. Let the insecure ones "claim" all the whatever they want.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35262 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:26 pm to
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Sounds like an LSU problem then don't it?

Your basically saying BAMA has to claim theirs the same way LSU does, or it's bogus. Maybe LSU needs to claim the way BAMA does.

If not then be happy with the way LSU does it, and we will be happy the way BAMA does it.
Are you admiting that Bama claims bogus NCs?
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No what you are doing is showing how jealous, and childish you are.
Why would we be jealous of bogus NCs?
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Neither do I, the argument started over Notre Dame claiming 11 and why Bama was even claiming the amount they do, then somehow it became about defining what is legitimate or not


Retards must flourish in your part of the world
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