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re: Auburn still only claims 1957 and 2010
Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:55 pm to joeyb147
Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:55 pm to joeyb147
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Alabama added 5 national championships in 1983 to boost its claims from 6 to 11.
And when did Notre Dame start claiming 11 national championships? Notre Dame claims national titles from 1924, 1929 and 1930 - long before any legitimate college football poll started keeping tabs on these things. Alabama claims national titles from 1925, 1926 and 1930. Both teams finished undefeated in each of those seasons. How can you say Notre Dame's national title claims from this era are more legitimate than Alabama's?
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 4:56 pm
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:56 pm to Korin
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Yep, they refused to play in a bowl until 67.
Exactly why they proclaim to be NC a few times more, which is bullshite, but nonetheless they laid claim to them
Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:57 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:57 pm to volfan30
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:00 pm to LSUNV
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Look to the right on claimed NC
Okay. And?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:03 pm to RollTide1987
quote:I'm guessing since 1988. LINK
And when did Notre Dame start claiming 11 national championships? Notre Dame claims national titles from 1924, 1929 and 1930 - long before any legitimate college football poll started keeping tabs on these things.
quote:Can you read without getting so emotional?
How can you say Notre Dame's national title claims from this era are more legitimate than Alabama's?
I didn't say one fricking word about the legitimacy of any national title. But the FACT is Wayne Atcheson added 5 national championships to Alabama's claims after the 1982 season. Deal with it.
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"I want to say the right thing here. I made the change because Coach Bryant had these 25 years and six national championships and they were emphasized so much. It was on all the stationery. And when I got there, it was a matter of seeing there were five others (before Bryant) and we should put them all together. It was as simple as that."
Atcheson said that in the 1983 media guide, he added the five pre-Bryant national titles now listed -- 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934 and 1941. Taylor Watson, curator at the Bryant Museum in Tuscaloosa, said it was actually the 1986 media guide.
This much is certain: The 1982 media guide, the last for Bryant, lists 1934 as the only pre-Bryant national championship, adding it in a footnote of Alabama's SEC history. In the year-by-year results in the '82 media guide, only Bryant's six national titles were listed.
Atcheson and Watson said it's important to put Alabama's claim of 12 in context because other schools have added debated championships, too.
"I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be," Atcheson said. "I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about, I wanted people to know the best about my school."
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:04 pm to RollTide1987
And! that's what they Claim. Are you really so dense that you believe titles won before 1930 are not bogus. Hell, we don't claim 3 that gives us credit after 1930 and 1 in 1908.
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:04 pm to Korin
So I guess that's a no?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:09 pm to Korin
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25, 26, and 30 were retroactive.
1926 was not retroactive. Dickinson was around back then and awarded the title to Alabama and Stanford since they tied in the Rose Bowl.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:13 pm to RollTide1987
If the AP did not vote it then it is bogus. You act like you were alive back then and witnessed it first hand. Until the AP started voting and bringing the whole field of choices together in one room to be discussed and voted on anybody could make claims on NC before 1930
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:15 pm to LSUNV
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If the AP did not vote it then it is bogus.
So basically everything that happened in college football's first 75 years doesn't matter? Awarded All-Americans, bowl game appearances, all of that shite is just irrelevant?
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:17 pm to RollTide1987
I tell you what, find me one person on here that was alive and witnessed a single NC from before 1930 then we can talk
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:20 pm to RollTide1987
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So basically everything that happened in college football's first 75 years doesn't matter? Awarded All-Americans, bowl game appearances, all of that shite is just irrelevant?
Pretty much, the game of football was not real popular back then at all. did not really start to become popular until the 40's if you really want to get technical.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:21 pm to LSUNV
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I tell you what, find me one person on here that was alive and witnessed a single NC from before 1930 then we can talk
Yeah. That argument makes a lot of sense. So when everyone who was alive to see teams win national championships in the BCS era are dead and gone, all those championships our schools won will automatically become bogus?
Can you find me someone who was alive to witness the first World Series? No. Does that mean it was bogus?
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:22 pm to RollTide1987
hey this is supposed to be about Auburn. Let them bask in the glory this time.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:24 pm to LSUNV
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Pretty much, the game of football was not real popular back then at all. did not really start to become popular until the 40's if you really want to get technical.
So because the game of football wasn't as popular then as it is now, it never happened? Am I understanding you right? I'm just making sure because I need to be able to officially rate you as either being dumb or retarded.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:25 pm to RollTide1987
Another good argument is teams refused travel very far back then so even if you were the best team in your region how could you determine that say a team up north was better. There was simply no way of gauging who was better. In 1930 that became a moot point.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:25 pm to beaver
Damn AU backed down from the backlash with the quickness.
No backbone.
No backbone.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
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So because the game of football wasn't as popular then as it is now, it never happened? Am I understanding you right? I'm just making sure because I need to be able to officially rate you as either being dumb or retarded.
You can spin this shite six ways from Sunday, but in reality, until the NCAA puts rules in place for back dated NC claims, this discussion will not be resolved.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:30 pm to LSUNV
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Another good argument is teams refused travel very far back then so even if you were the best team in your region how could you determine that say a team up north was better. There was simply no way of gauging who was better. In 1930 that became a moot point.
It's not that teams refused, it's that the only reliable mode of transportation back then was the railroad as commercial air travel was still very much in its infancy. It took several days and lots of cash to ship 30 or 40 players 1,000 miles to play a football game.
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