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re: Assuming Bama/Georgia make SEC champ undefeated are both in playoff regardless of outcome?

Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:56 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 11:56 am to
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1 winning SECCG could be in or out depending on what other teams are there.


Nope. Uga is a lock if we are 12-1 sec champ
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Nope. Uga is a lock if we are 12-1 sec champ


I mean... I could probably come up with a scenario where we'd be left out, but it's also hugely improbable...

Let's see:

Penn State finishes undefeated - 12-0
Wisconsin finishes undefeated - 12-0
Penn State wins B1G - 13-0 - IN
(Curve ball... Wisconsin wins, even more chaos... but let's run with scenario 1)

Miami finishes with one close loss to ND and wins ACCCG over 1 loss Clemson - 12-1 - Probably IN

TCU finishes Undefeated, wins BigXII over Oklahoma/Ok St - 13-0 - IN

ND finishes 11-1, only loss a 1 point loss to UGA early in the season- ???

UGA loses to any of the teams in the regular season left for us, and doesn't look great down the stretch. Anyone but Bama (one close loss) doesn't represent the West in the SECCG...

You have 2-3 almost guarantees in that case with Penn St, TCU, and then Miami, and then between Alabama and ND, you have 2 teams that very easily could get the nod over a UGA with a hypothetical bad loss and a less than quality perceived conference championship win and generally down play at the end of the season (see: Penn St 2016).

Again, I'm simply playing devils' advocate here, as I don't think the above scenario is likely, but if I'm just going off the top of my head, that's one way where UGA could easily still be left out as a potential 1 loss SEC Champion.
Posted by TrueReb13
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:25 pm to
12-1 SEC Champ Georgia would get in over 12-1 Miami for sure.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:31 pm to
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12-1 SEC Champ Georgia would get in over 12-1 Miami for sure.


That's good point, given the transitive property/common opponent of ND.. fine, let's take ND out of the mix and make Miami 13-0? Still leaves Bama in tOSU position of last year.

Or, what happens if UGA's lone loss is OOC to Ga Tech... then you have 2 common opponents, and UGA/Miami are 1-1 against common opponents there.

Again, simply a hypothetical anyways, but it's certainly possible to envision a scenario where UGA could be left out even as an SECCG winner.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by TrueReb13
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:33 pm to
13-0 Miami would have to get in
Posted by dawg4lyfe
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 12:38 pm to
Oh I'm not saying ND should go in over a 1 loss UGA. But if playoff committee looks at resumes, ND has more good wins. We would only have ND
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 5:02 pm to
If Bama is 12-0 at the end of the regular season they are in the playoffs regardless of what happens in Atlanta. We would have at worst the #4 spot locked up at 12-1
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 5:15 pm to
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If Bama is 12-0 at the end of the regular season they are in the playoffs regardless of what happens in Atlanta. We would have at worst the #4 spot locked up at 12-1


Same scenario presented above, but flip it...

Hypothetical: TCU, Miami, Penn State go undefeated... UGA beats Alabama in the SECCG... Bama left out...

Do I think it's likely? Hell no... but it's certainly possible. Particularly since that would likely put UGA at the #1 spot, and they're not going to rematch us in round 1... for all the same reasons I've said that UGA likely doesn't make it in if we lose in Atlanta...
Posted by Glory, Glory
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Posted on 10/25/17 at 5:51 pm to
UGA will get fricked, it’s a fact of life. All UGA can do at this point is focus on the next game. They have some margin for error in the regular season. For instance, If they lose to Auburn but beat Bama, they’re in. For Bama, regardless of the SECCG outcome, they’re in.
Posted by Fearless_and_True
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:52 am to
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If Notre Dame wins out, they are in. Locked in.


I agree with this also
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:41 am to
Notre Dame wins out than there is a good chance there won't be an ACC team in the final 4.

Very good chance TCU loses a game. They will have to beat Oklahoma or OSU twice.

That leave SEC champ, Big Ten champ, ND. Maybe either another SEC team or Big 10.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:47 am to
If Bama gets to 12-0 we are in. Will be no worse than a #4 seed at that point. It is good to be The King
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:55 am to
Lol at the mental gymnastics one would have to do to put Notre Dame over Georgia after the SECCG when the Irish were essentially on a bye week. Especially considering Georgia beat Notre Dame and had a better record
Posted by Geaux Team Geaux
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:06 am to
No. Just no.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:14 am to
No. Who ever loses wont make it. Someone else will take their place
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:19 am to
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No. Who ever loses wont make it. Someone else will take their place


Nah, if UGA squeaks by Bama then both will make it but not the other way around.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 9:32 am to
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Lol at the mental gymnastics one would have to do to put Notre Dame over Georgia after the SECCG when the Irish were essentially on a bye week. Especially considering Georgia beat Notre Dame and had a better record


Initial projection on Mike and Mike this AM, in advance of first CFB playoff, said ND has only a 47% chance to make the playoffs even if they win out.

I can't see the committee ignoring a head to head home loss to another 1 loss team who had to play #1 team in the country in a CCG.

Personally, I think the committee would be hoping for a way to keep ND and UGA out in that scenario.

Bad options all around for them:
A. UGA in, ND out. UGA likely #4 and it's mulligan game part 2 with all the same 2 teams from 1 conf talk.
B. UGA out, ND in. Obvious issue as mentioned above.
C. UGA in at 3, ND in at 4. 3 other power 5 Conf Champs left out.
D. ND and UGA out. Avoids the tougher decisions and fallout. Allows max conf participation in CFB playoffs. Fails to reward SOS and on field performance
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