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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:31 am to PearlJam
Wiley and Heron would be my guess.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:32 am to Pettifogger
So is pitino busted 
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:32 am to Lg
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You still have an assistant coach giving money to student athlete's and their families which is against NCAA rules I believe.
He's being sarcastic I think
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:33 am to Pettifogger
Sarcasm? What's that?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:33 am to Pigfeet
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:33 am to Pigfeet
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Talking about a black hole. Summer camps/Aau/Pro Athletes/Shoe contracts
It could go on and on and on
Especially if any of the arrested are rats
These aren't hardened criminals. Just guys who were trying to get paid. They're gonna squeal louder than Ned Beatty.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:33 am to Pettifogger
quote:Certainly that's an argument that can be made. But that could be made in every ncaa case. It's contrary to the benefit of the program because it made the player ineligible, but it also was an impermissible benefit provided to a player and arranged in part by an assistant coach.
A rogue agent with motivations entirely unrelated to, and contrary to the benefit of, the program/university who employed him.
Sure, a defense can and will be made, but I don't see a way we skate on this untouched.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:34 am to jb4
He'll come out of it smelling like roses again. It'll get passed off on an assistant who gets fired and that he "had no knowledge".
The issue for UofL is this occurring right after major violations. What does that trigger with the NCAA under the new punishment scale?
The issue for UofL is this occurring right after major violations. What does that trigger with the NCAA under the new punishment scale?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:35 am to BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:37 am to NashvilleTider
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NashvilleTider
This is like Blue Chips or something
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Welp, as an Auburn fan there's nothing left for us to now but close our eyes, bite the pillow, and go to our happy place until the NCAA is done.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:39 am to Pigfeet
Damn, I remember Chuck from when I was a kid. Dude was in the NBA for like 30 years.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:39 am to Masterag
this HAS to be enough to get JJ fired, right?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:40 am to Darth_Vader
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Welp, as an Auburn fan there's nothing left for us to now but close our eyes, bite the pillow, and go to our happy place until the NCAA is done.
A savior emerges
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The guys who got caught were just the unfortunate dudes who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
They weren't in wrong place at wrong time. They were sloppy and more blatant than the others. This isn't an NCAA investigation. This is the FBI. That's not wrong place at wrong time. That's wrong place at wrong time doing the wrong thing for a long time. I'm sure more will be named, too.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
This is going to be an epic story. It could really change the landscape of college basketball.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
Just when you think that College Basketball couldn't be filthier . It's almost the moral equivalent of dog fighting, at this point
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:41 am to PearlJam
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THIS IS ENTRAPMENT.
I'm about 90% sure you were joking, but there is a 10% chance you don't know the meaning of entrapment.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:41 am to PearlJam
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Certainly that's an argument that can be made. But that could be made in every ncaa case. It's contrary to the benefit of the program because it made the player ineligible, but it also was an impermissible benefit provided to a player and arranged in part by an assistant coach.
Somewhat, but not really I'd argue. All benefits to players can ultimately blowback on a school, and therefore can be contrary to the interests of the school. But motivations are usually at least tangentially tied to the school, as in, to the school getting the player to come or stay there, or more often, just to appease or impress recruits or players. That represents what, the huge majority of improper benefits matters?
That is not the case here, at least from what we know. So while I agree that I'm far from certain we get out of this without NCAA trouble, I think the argument we're talking about has far more plausibility and importance in this situation, at least based on the limited facts so far.
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