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Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:50 am to Cowbells
Let it burn to the ground baby! fire everyone!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:11 am to Cowbells
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:23 am to bamasgot13
So they spent that money, cheated and lied, and still couldn't even snag the recruit.
The NCAA is doing them a favor, really. Gives them a chance to step back, take a time out, re-allocate their resources, and learn from Baylor.
The NCAA is doing them a favor, really. Gives them a chance to step back, take a time out, re-allocate their resources, and learn from Baylor.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:33 am to tokenBoiler
That NCAA dingy bout to do some serious damage.
They've been waiting for an SEC team to screw up after cam
They've been waiting for an SEC team to screw up after cam
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:37 am to Cowbells
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:38 am to Cowbells
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:38 am to bamasgot13
I guess we will never know but I wonder how you prove someone got things like food or merchandise for free. Is it just the word of the player, do they record conversations etc. I know the police would conduct surveillance and stings but I wonder what the NCAA considers enough evidence.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:52 am to GnashRebel
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I guess we will never know but I wonder how you prove someone got things like food or merchandise for free. Is it just the word of the player, do they record conversations etc. I know the police would conduct surveillance and stings but I wonder what the NCAA considers enough evidence.
I think they can use receipts in some capacity. It worked better in the Miami case as the guy was popping thousands of dollars of bottles at clubs and there was an easy connection to know the kids weren't paying for them
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:09 pm to GnashRebel
quote:Apparently people provided receipts from eating establishments, hotels, and clothing stores. What I find weird is how they got proof that a kid went hunting on a boosters property? Who the hell told them a recruit was offered and accepted a hunting trip by a booster? Do they have video evidence, photos of an 10 point?
I guess we will never know but I wonder how you prove someone got things like food or merchandise for free. Is it just the word of the player, do they record conversations etc. I know the police would conduct surveillance and stings but I wonder what the NCAA considers enough evidence.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:13 pm to Buckeye06
Back when Alabama got caught, I was working at a radio station in Tuscaloosa and we were doing a show on the NOA.
As part of background research for the hosts, I emailed whoever the NCAA official in charge of investigations was (that was almost 20 years ago, can't remember the name) and asked what was their adjudication standard in these matters: preponderance of evidence, reasonable doubt, the existence of verifiable links (like receipts, car titles, deposit slips, emails, taped phone calls, etc.)?
The response I received was that the committee was free to decide the credibility of any evidence presented and free to determine their own adjudication standards.
Essentially, this is like that Survivor TV show. They either vote you off the island or they don't.
As part of background research for the hosts, I emailed whoever the NCAA official in charge of investigations was (that was almost 20 years ago, can't remember the name) and asked what was their adjudication standard in these matters: preponderance of evidence, reasonable doubt, the existence of verifiable links (like receipts, car titles, deposit slips, emails, taped phone calls, etc.)?
The response I received was that the committee was free to decide the credibility of any evidence presented and free to determine their own adjudication standards.
Essentially, this is like that Survivor TV show. They either vote you off the island or they don't.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:16 pm to GnashRebel
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I guess we will never know but I wonder how you prove someone got things like food or merchandise for free. Is it just the word of the player, do they record conversations etc. I know the police would conduct surveillance and stings but I wonder what the NCAA considers enough evidence.
Take it for what it's worth, but a couple of OM sites reported that the University helped the NCAA execute a sting on Rebel Rags. I read this over a month ago, and then the proprietor was named in the amended NOA yesterday, so....
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:16 pm to Cowbells
This is all bunch of bullshite frick Leo Louis go to hell schtate and Leo!!!!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:20 pm to HarryBalzack
I assume in OM case if they interview 5 players who all same virtually the same thing such as where they met, who they met with, and how much was involved then you can accuse them by reasonable doubt. I doubt you can actually prove money changed hands but if a number say the same thing then you can assume they are telling the truth.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:34 pm to RT1941
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What I find weird is how they got proof that a kid went hunting on a boosters property? Who the hell told them a recruit was offered and accepted a hunting trip by a booster?
The kid in question later transferred to Auburn. He probably had little reason not to tell everything he knew.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:39 pm to Restomod
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Hugh should not have asked the REC to email the Ole Miss compliance office...
That is what gets me. He showed his arrogance by popping off statements/challenges in the way that he did and now he will have to answer for them. IMO, if he were my coach, this with the "holier than thou" attitude is why he would have to go.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:47 pm to rebel of fortune
I always felt the 5 year bowl ban was the punch to the gut. At that point you are telling a recruiting class even with a red shirt you most likely will never see a bowl in your college career.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:12 pm to El Batnaros
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This is all bunch of bullshite frick Leo Louis go to hell schtate and Leo!!!!
People like you deserve this. Melt, you little bitch.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:17 pm to Billy Mays
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I can't believe in 2017 the NCAA is allowed to game the system by abusing the immunity rules to rival schools players in order to rig the case against Ole Miss.
You remember Doug Buckles?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:34 pm to MaroonNation
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You remember Doug Buckles?
Was he the Ole Miss player that snitched on Mississippi State back in 02?
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