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re: Arkansas Coaches(Ash) Jumping Ship
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:56 am to ElDawgHawg
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:56 am to ElDawgHawg
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won't change our recruiting class much. He hasn't done crap as a recruiter. Honestly this opens the door for Shannon who HAS recruited well for us. Hopefully this ends well. Given recent history it probably will not....
You're right on Ash and recruiting. Great coach, meh recruiter. But Randy hasn't done much for recruiting either. This gives us an opportunity to get a very good recruiter on campus. Hopefully we take it.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:57 am to Hog on the Hill
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I don't think so.
Who is yall's big recruiter then (aka the guy setting up the 2015 class)?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:59 am to KSGamecock
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-One of the reasons BB left Wisconsin was because of coaching attrition, now it's happening again.
2 coaches is nowhere near the attrition he was seeing
He's been able to retain Shannon at least 2 times (most recently last week) and Pittman when Bama offered him. That's 2 more coaches that would DEFINITELY be gone if he was paying them Wiscy money 
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:59 am to The_Joker
I've always thought Randy would not do well outside of SFL. Has that been accurate so far?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:00 pm to cardboardboxer
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Who is yall's big recruiter then (aka the guy setting up the 2015 class)?
Mainly Sam Muhfrickin Pittman.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:01 pm to roadGator
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I've always thought Randy would not do well outside of SFL. Has that been accurate so far?
That's his recruiting area. We haven't sent him anywhere else to my knowledge.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:01 pm to roadGator
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Destination job?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:01 pm to texasaggie08
LOL
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:05 pm to The_Joker
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2 coaches is nowhere near the attrition he was seeing
It actually is on par with some of his years at Wisconsin if not worse.
2009: DC Dave Doeren left for the HC job at NIU (now coaches NC ST)
2010: OC Paul Chryst left for the HC job at Pitt
Those were all promotions, Ash leaving for a co-job is worse. BB whined about Alvarez letting his coaches go, drug Ash to Arkansas with him only to have Ash ditch him for a school BB loved whining about: OSU. What heartbreak.
Probably a full day of tears and Ben & Jerry for BB.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:07 pm to roadGator
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I've always thought Randy would not do well outside of SFL. Has that been accurate so far?
He got Denver Kirkland for us last year who was a FR All-American and it looks like he has a good shot at landing JoJo Robinson and Demetrius Jackson this year.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:07 pm to KSGamecock
Ash was a huge disappointment. He was only DC at Wiscy one year and BB only brought him here because they were buddies. Our D got worse as the season went on - and even with a lack of talent good coaching should shine through to the players by season's end.
This only clears the way for Randy Shannon to be DC. Big upgrade
This only clears the way for Randy Shannon to be DC. Big upgrade
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:08 pm to KSGamecock
I really don't think this will turn out the way you're hoping it will. And I don't drink Kool-Aid.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:11 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I doubt any. Ash wasn't really responsible for any of our commits this year. That's been the biggest knock against him since he was hired.
Well that and no one wants Arkansas' recruits
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:12 pm to DWag215
Actually I lied. A&M wants your kicker.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:14 pm to Hog Leg
Arkansas had the worst back seven in the league... no amount of coaching can overcome the severe holes in that LB core and secondary.
Ash did a good job at Wisconsin... improved their defensive performance there. He did have to face some pretty stout QBs this year... it just wasn't a going to go good for anyone.
Ash did a good job at Wisconsin... improved their defensive performance there. He did have to face some pretty stout QBs this year... it just wasn't a going to go good for anyone.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:15 pm to DWag215
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Actually I lied. A&M wants your kicker.
Too bad he doesn't want A&M.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:18 pm to lowspark12
I'm curious if you even knew who he was or thought he was that great until now....
Regardless, yes...4 DCs in 4 yrs is no fun but makes me think Randy Shannon has had this locked up.
Regardless, yes...4 DCs in 4 yrs is no fun but makes me think Randy Shannon has had this locked up.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:22 pm to TheCheshireHog
DK was a SFL kid. So I guess I was accurate. Don't know about the other two. Never heard of them.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:23 pm to Latarian
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Aggie fan starting thread about defense
lulz
The Aggies are experts at being defensive.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:25 pm to lowspark12
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Arkansas had the worst back seven in the league... no amount of coaching can overcome the severe holes in that LB core and secondary.
Ash did a good job at Wisconsin... improved their defensive performance there. He did have to face some pretty stout QBs this year... it just wasn't a going to go good for anyone.
Ash is a good DC our staff wasn't working with much thanks to neck brace.
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