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Andy Kennedy : How good a coach is he and what do OM fans think?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:31 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:31 am
Andy Kennedy is a tough coach to assess. On the one hand, he has only been to 1 NCAA tournament in 8 years at Ole Miss and that was due to a magical SECT run.
On the other hand, he has had more consistent success at Ole Miss than any coach in their history, and he has only had 1 team win less than 16 games. Ole Miss plays in the worst arena in the league (about to change) and has the worst basketball tradition in the league. They have always followed up good/average seasons with bad ones, but Kennedy has managed to avoid that. However, he has never had a team that broke through the ceiling. He will soon be able to recruit to a beautiful new facility that could give him an advantage in recruiting that used to be a disadvantage.
So, what are the overall thoughts on Kennedy from non-OM people and OM people?
9 SEC Seasons
8-8
7-9
7-9
9-7
7-9
8-8
12-6
9-9
3-3
70-68 overall
On the other hand, he has had more consistent success at Ole Miss than any coach in their history, and he has only had 1 team win less than 16 games. Ole Miss plays in the worst arena in the league (about to change) and has the worst basketball tradition in the league. They have always followed up good/average seasons with bad ones, but Kennedy has managed to avoid that. However, he has never had a team that broke through the ceiling. He will soon be able to recruit to a beautiful new facility that could give him an advantage in recruiting that used to be a disadvantage.
So, what are the overall thoughts on Kennedy from non-OM people and OM people?
9 SEC Seasons
8-8
7-9
7-9
9-7
7-9
8-8
12-6
9-9
3-3
70-68 overall
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:32 am
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
He's average but he wins a lot of OOC games usually so he has a bunch of wins.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
double penatration
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
That's like asking if I like fish sticks
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:34 am to SummerOfGeorge
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he has only been to 1 NCAA tournament in 8 years at Ole Miss and that was due to a magical SECT run.
FWIW we were going to be in the tournament before winning the SEC tournament.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:35 am to UMRealist
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FWIW we were going to be in the tournament before winning the SEC tournament.
If I remember correctly you guys were in once you made it to the Title game but you were not at the start of the SECT. Your OOC was pretty bad that year wasn't it?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
It's pretty bad most years.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:36 am to UMRealist
That was a dang good team. Buckner and Holloway along with White, Henderson and Summers.
Kennedy seems to find scorers who are underrecruited.
Kennedy seems to find scorers who are underrecruited.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
Inconsistent. Dude allows his players to play to the level of competition like a mofo. World-beaters against Kentucky/Arkansas and meat beaters against Charleston Southern and MSU. And yes, I do realize that the Charleston Southern loss was most likely due to growing pains and having the team gel together. Still was only their second win against Power 5 opponents in school history.
So I don't know what to think about him ever. I don't think he does either.
So I don't know what to think about him ever. I don't think he does either.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
He has done a fairly good job of recruiting guys that are undersized or not elite athletes and thus not heavily recruited but can play.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:41 am to DMagic
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That's like asking if I like fish sticks
You do, you're a gay fish...
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
He is a good coach and has done a solid job at OM. Andy Kennedy has benefitted from Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, LSU, and Arkansas having some of their worst stretch runs in program history. He will occasionally pull some big wins (Kentucky in 2011, Florida 2013, etc.) His teams follow up with unexplainable losses (South Carolina 2007, Mississippi State 2013) that make you scratch your head. He is the funniest coach you will ever hear speak. In his earlier days at OM he would show up to speaking engagements double-fisting and make you laugh your arse off. His teams do not play very smart basketball and that gets old, especially knowing he is actually a very smart individual who seems to get it.
Our new arena is going to change the caliber of recruit we can attract to the school and we shall see if he's teams improve based on that. Based on Auburn's recent stretch, I don't know if it will help that much.
We are consistently on the bubble and in the conversation, so from that standpoint and the fact that he works with awful facilities and no tradition (does the 1997-2001 era count for anything?), he's done a standup job.
Our new arena is going to change the caliber of recruit we can attract to the school and we shall see if he's teams improve based on that. Based on Auburn's recent stretch, I don't know if it will help that much.
We are consistently on the bubble and in the conversation, so from that standpoint and the fact that he works with awful facilities and no tradition (does the 1997-2001 era count for anything?), he's done a standup job.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:43 am to DingDongEddieStrong
So are most Ole Miss folks content with Kennedy? I remember a few years ago, pre-NCAA Tournament appearance, that there were grumblings about sending him packing. Are most folks past that now?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
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So are most Ole Miss folks content with Kennedy? I remember a few years ago, pre-NCAA Tournament appearance, that there were grumblings about sending him packing. Are most folks past that now?
Probably not, because nothing has changed in almost 10 seasons. I'd liken it to Bianco, until he broke through to Omaha last season. The Marshall Hendo experiment bought him more time.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
I've resigned myself to his existence as coach
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
No I would say most don't like him. I thought he should have been fired after cabgate. There are a lot that will defend him because OM has never done better though.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:46 am to UMRealist
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No I would say most don't like him. I thought he should have been fired after cabgate. There are a lot that will defend him because OM has never done better though.
Yea, I would think a lot of people feel he deserves an opportunity in the new facility as well, but I could see wanting to just start new with a guy like Michael White in a new facility.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:47 am to DingDongEddieStrong
They also lost to USC that year inexplicably. Should of beaten LaSalle. Losing games we shouldn't is an AK staple.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:48 am to UMRealist
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Losing games we shouldn't is an AK staple.
He does seem to lose 1-2 random OOC home games early in the year and 1-2 random SEC home games every year.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
I get people wanting to give him a chance in the new facility. I just worry that if we give him 2-3 years and still nothing changes, then we just wasted all the excitement of the new arena. I can go either way though.
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