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re: AMP Top 10 QB Performances
Posted on 2/25/10 at 8:52 am to adammwilson
Posted on 2/25/10 at 8:52 am to adammwilson
Where Matt played football is pretty similar to where I played football. When you grow up in a spread offense, you learn to start reading and dissecting defenses in the 7th grade. Some areas start earlier. I'm saying that when you have had that kind of experience in reading defenses, you shouldn't be making the same mistakes in High School and college that you made when you were 12-15 yrs of age. Some things won't change with Matt as far as where he's going to throw the ball. Matt is a pretty egotistical kid, and at times, he doesn't care what the defense is giving him because of his arm. I'm just saying some QB's would rather take what a defense gives them, but Matt likes to force it a lot more than he should.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 8:53 am to tissle
Stafford is a great leader. I feel like those concerns are overblown.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 8:55 am to gatordmb89
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he doesn't care what the defense is giving him because of his arm. I'm just saying some QB's would rather take what a defense gives them, but Matt likes to force it a lot more than he should
everyone with a big arm struggles with this.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:02 am to adammwilson
So it's overblown because he keeps making the same mistakes he made in the 9th grade? Nah, it's not overblown, it's a real issue. Something that didn't change at UGA and he threw a ton of Int's and something that won't change in the NFL. It's a pattern at this point.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:04 am to gatordmb89
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So it's overblown because he keeps making the same mistakes he made in the 9th grade? Nah, it's not overblown, it's a real issue. Something that didn't change at UGA and he threw a ton of Int's and something that won't change in the NFL. It's a pattern at this point.
I'm saying people saying he is not a leader are wrong.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:06 am to adammwilson
He's a leader by example. When he's making mistakes, it minimizes his leadership ability IMO.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:07 am to gatordmb89
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When he's making mistakes, it minimizes his leadership ability IMO
every qb makes mistakes. So Manning wasn't a leader anymore when he threw a pick 6 in the super bowl? Warner wasn't a leader after he threw the pick 6 in the superbowl.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:15 am to adammwilson
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying a leader that leads by example that makes mistakes over and over is harder to follow than someone that's an emotional leader that can keep his team in the game through his emotions. Peyton and Warner are on a totally different level than Matt and have been making great throws in the NFL for years. They're both Super Bowl winning QB's who have made a countless number of great throws in big games. Matt on the other hand is harder to follow because of the amount of mistakes he has made. He hasn't been that successful as a QB in College or the NFL. Sure he makes the great throw every now and then, but he makes mistakes at such a high rate it's more difficult to follow him than it's a proven leader by example. Matt has to prove himself consistently before I call him a leader.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:18 am to gatordmb89
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He hasn't been that successful as a QB in College or the NFL.
He was the 1st pick in the draft. You've got to be kidding when you say he wasn't succesful in college. In the NFL he has a game where he threw 5 td's. The Lions were awful last year. They had no running game, no defense, no o.line, no receiving threats other than Calvin Johnson who missed multiple games.
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Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:50 am to gatordmb89
in tebows senior year he threw 16 more touchdowns than interceptions. in staffords last year he threw 15 more TD's than interceptions.
is tebow not a leader either?
is tebow not a leader either?
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:51 am to dawgystyle
Nah man, Tebow yells and flaps his arms. Apples to Oranges. *sarcasm*
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:08 am to adammwilson
He was a 1st overall pick based off of upside and arm stenghth, not leadership ability.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:10 am to dawgystyle
Comparing Tebow's leadership to Stafford's is laughable. They lead by totally different styles. Tebow's emotions are their each and every week, Stafford's leadership ability shows when he's on his game.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:16 am to gatordmb89
oh shaddup.
Tebow can flap his arms around all day and not get called for anything.
Anyone else does it...and they get called for unsportsmanlike or taunting.
You must really hate UGA if you think Stafford is not a leader. Seriously. All your arguments just fail.
Tebow can flap his arms around all day and not get called for anything.
Anyone else does it...and they get called for unsportsmanlike or taunting.
You must really hate UGA if you think Stafford is not a leader. Seriously. All your arguments just fail.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:21 am to tissle
Considering you haven't made one logical post arguing my thought out posts, proves that you're full of shite. Go ahead and posts Stafford's career numbers through 3 years of starting and Tebow's and you can see that Tebow led better by both example and emotion than Stafford. Are you done crying yet about Tebow tactics?
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:24 am to gatordmb89
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Go ahead and posts Stafford's career numbers through 3 years of starting and Tebow's and you can see that Tebow led better by both example and emotion than Stafford. Are you done crying yet about Tebow tactics?
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tebow played in a spread and stafford played in a pro style offense. I think it's clearly obvious who will be more succesful in the nfl
Posted on 2/25/10 at 1:40 pm to gatordmb89
this is what you said first saying that he could not be a good leader because he throws to many interceptions
then this is what i said, stating that the difference between td's and int's were almost identical between the two their last year of college
then you said
hmm... you might want to stick to one side of the story and not back track so much. either the reason stafford is hard to follow is because IYO he throws alot of interceptions and realize that him and tebow had almost identical deferential. or you can admit that he is a good leader
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Matt on the other hand is harder to follow because of the amount of mistakes he has made.
then this is what i said, stating that the difference between td's and int's were almost identical between the two their last year of college
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in tebows senior year he threw 16 more touchdowns than interceptions. in staffords last year he threw 15 more TD's than interceptions. is tebow not a leader either?
then you said
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Comparing Tebow's leadership to Stafford's is laughable.
hmm... you might want to stick to one side of the story and not back track so much. either the reason stafford is hard to follow is because IYO he throws alot of interceptions and realize that him and tebow had almost identical deferential. or you can admit that he is a good leader
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