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re: All You Trolls Who Believe Pinkel and Coaching Staff Protecting DGB

Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:24 am to
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:24 am to
y'all are so rustled about ghey players, players getting suspended, players beating women, and DGB's below expectation performance...it's pretty funny.

I could have written that DGB be lined up outside of a Denny's and have milk toast thrown at him and you would've been just as angry.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:33 am to
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whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?



That is in the court system...not in the court of public opinion. And Missouri has hurt themselves with the way in which they have handled this. From representatives sweeping a rape under the rug to intimidating witnesses.

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Should be innocent unless proven african-American...


Race card. A very effective tool. Becuase nobody on this board got on Johnny Manziel for his antics, did they? Only because Green-Beckham is black? THAT is why it is an issue? You might want to try that on somebody else.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:37 am to
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You don't know the facts of this case - and this stupid "dailymail" article doesn't understand American laws. The only person she told was bound by HIPAA - so she COULDN'T notify the University, so no investigation could have taken place.


Reading is fundamental...

A rape crisis counselor and a campus therapist first learned of the alleged February 2010 incident after swimmer Sasha Menu Courey recounted it to them later that year

The University was fully aware.

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It's a criminal case anyway, happened off campus, the police are the ones that would investigate.



So, the fact that it happened by a Missouri football player has nothing to do with anything?
Get the brooms out, boys!

Ex-Missouri football receiver Rolandis Woodland said he saw video of three of his teammates raping her in a room as she sobbed hysterically
Missouri officials said there was insufficient information for them to bring to law enforcement or to investigate under Department of Education laws but since the ESPN story they can handed the case to off campus police


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:38 am to
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stupid



That's my guess.




Because anyone that would bring out anything you don't like would have to be stupid, right?

Sweeeeeep!
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5890 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:40 am to
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A rape crisis counselor and a campus therapist first learned of the alleged February 2010 incident after swimmer Sasha Menu Courey recounted it to them later that year



You don't understand HIPAA. So yes, stupid is the answer.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:41 am to
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This issue has been beaten to death, so you either haven't been paying attention, are stupid, or a massive troll.


YOU guys brought all this up. If you don't want to talk about your dirty laundry you could just quit talking about it. The threads I see were started by Missou fans.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:42 am to
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A rape crisis counselor and a campus therapist first learned of the alleged February 2010 incident after swimmer Sasha Menu Courey recounted it to them later that year



You don't understand HIPAA. So yes, stupid is the answer.




Funny how you conveniently left this out of your post:

Missouri officials said there was insufficient information for them to bring to law enforcement or to investigate under Department of Education laws but since the ESPN story they can handed the case to off campus police
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:45 am to
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You don't understand HIPAA. So yes, stupid is the answer.




Tell me...what does HIPPA have to do with this?

In the ensuing months, a campus nurse, two doctors and, according to her journal, an athletic department administrator also learned of her claim that she had been assaulted.

Healthcare providers are generally exempt from requirements to report such crimes and also are bound by medical privacy laws. But those same protections do not extend to campus administrators, who at Missouri were made aware of claims that Menu Courey had been raped through several sources, including a 2012 newspaper article as well as the university's review of records when fulfilling separate records requests by her parents and "Outside the Lines."

Under Title IX law enforced by the U.S. Department of Education, once a school knows or reasonably should know of possible sexual violence it must take immediate and appropriate action to investigate or otherwise determine what happened. The law applies even after the death of an alleged victim. Further, the federal Clery Act requires campus officials with responsibility for student or campus activities to report serious incidents of crime to police for investigation and possible inclusion in campus crime statistics.

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And you say I am stupid.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:51 am to
I'm not so sure this thread went quite like they thought it would. yet they keep starting threads like these.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:54 am to
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I'm not so sure this thread went quite like they thought it would. yet they keep starting threads like these.



I'm not sure you have a grasp of what the Rant is really about.


Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5890 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:55 am to
That is an ESPN report from one reporter. Mizzou hired a seperate 3rd party investigator to see if any of those allegations are true. They are actually supposed to release that report soon.

And which campus administrators were these exactly? I don't see a person named in the article?

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Healthcare providers are generally exempt from requirements to report such crimes and also are bound by medical privacy laws.


Healthcare providers are all exempt and bound by privacy laws. The smoking gun here is whether an administrator was made aware. If they were and they did nothing then shame on them. That is why Mizzou hired the 3rd party firm-to find out if/who knew and didn't report appropriately.

The fact is that it is a sad situation. And every health care professional she talked to fell under HIPAA. Just remains to be seen about this alleged administrator.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:02 am to
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The smoking gun here is whether an administrator was made aware. If they were and they did nothing then shame on them. That is why Mizzou hired the 3rd party firm-to find out if/who knew and didn't report appropriately.

The fact is that it is a sad situation. And every health care professional she talked to fell under HIPAA. Just remains to be seen about this alleged administrator.




Now THIS, I can agree with.

Unfortunately, under Title IX they are required to investigate even after the death of the student. It would appear as if at least SOME officials of the University decided not to investigate, because, in their words" "They thought the student would not want them to investigate." VERY poor. Hopefully more level headed people have intervened and an investigation is ongoing. Good news.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:05 am to
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Funny how you conveniently left this out of your post:

Missouri officials said there was insufficient information for them to bring to law enforcement or to investigate under Department of Education laws but since the ESPN story they can handed the case to off campus police


There was insufficient evidence because the parents wouldn't turn it over to the university, they did however, turn it over to ESPN, once the evidence was in the public domain, the University could then ask for an investigation.

Put simply: You dumb
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:09 am to
I DID find this....sounds as if they knew about it in 2012. They should have started this independent investigation then. They should not have aited. Does not look good.

The main Missouri figures commenting in the OTL report were senior associate AD Sarah Reesman, swimming coach Greg Rodenbaugh and sports information director Chad Moller. Neither AD Mike Alden nor any senior university officials commented for the story. OTL produced an email string that showed several Missouri athletic officials -- including Alden -- getting a copy of a newspaper story on Courey's situation in February 2012.

LINK


Unfortunately, most schools have incidences that we, as fans, are ashamed of. Some more than others. Georgia has had our share of "unfortunate" incidences. Hopefully, administrations can put aside the desire to win at any cost and start doing the right thing. A little integrity is needed in college athletics right now.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:10 am to
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There was insufficient evidence because the parents wouldn't turn it over to the university, they did however, turn it over to ESPN, once the evidence was in the public domain, the University could then ask for an investigation.

Put simply: You dumb



No. Put simply...if they suspected, they should have turned it over to police. And, according to ESPN and CBS..they were aware in 2012. 2 years later they want to start an independent investigation?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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Put simply: You dumb



Would appear as if rape is a way of life for Missouri athletes:

In 2010, former Missouri tailback Derrick Washington was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison on a felony charge of deviate sexual assault of a Missouri female student. He served 120 days.

Former Missouri basketball guard Michael Dixon was under indefinite suspension in November 2012 when he transferred to Memphis. The announcement came shortly after a second rape accusation in two days against Dixon had surfaced, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.


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Now, you tell me...who's dumb? If this had happened, and there were more rumblings don't you think administrators should have started an inquiry sooner than 2-3 years after an event?
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:15 am to
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It said the university's police department on Saturday submitted information to the Columbia, Mo., police department because the alleged incident occurred off campus. Also in the statement, Missouri reiterated it was not able to go forward with an investigation because neither Courey nor her parents brought a complaint.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:18 am to
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Now, you tell me...who's dumb? If this had happened, and there were more rumblings don't you think administrators should have started an inquiry sooner than 2-3 years after an event?


I don't know, why does UGA protect rapists?
LINK
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:27 am to
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I don't know, why does UGA protect rapists?
LINK


Well...unlike Missou fans I will condemn these actions and not try to defend them with excuses and calling others stupid or ill informed.
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