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re: all time records? "modern era" of football? what's relevant?

Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:20 pm to
This is a great site for stats and it seems to start in 1956, so I will go with that.

LINK
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

I grew up with a kid whose dad used to be the kicker for Alabama. He was the one who missed the extra point against Notre Dame in the '73 Orange Bowl. We mocked him relentlessly even though it happened 20 years ago...


Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6925 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 5:34 pm to
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Post 1945


on what basis?


The general logic of this basis is usually 3 fold.

1) Prior to the end of WW2 and during, often travelling teams existed or technical schools fielded football programs; the playing field, in that sense, didn't really resemble the modern one until the 'others' faded away.

2) The Great Organizing Time: The major conference were mostly organized on a stable basis by 1945. One of the important things that has helped define the era of major college football, is recognizable formatting; a team was associated with its conference, and you could generally count on it still being the same 15-20 years later. Bowl tie-ins became more permanent across the board. Large scale athletic departments with permanent, expansive facilities became the norm; specialized football-only coaching started to emerge as the dominant trend in the sport. Specialization became a thing.

3) The forward pass became much more standardized, so the game as played became much more recognizable, and comparable between seasons.

Now, there are arguments about whether or not segregated football is really a good comp, or whether or not the changes in rules make the game a truly comparable product, but there is little question that what came after the war, was much more like now, than even what it was like two decades before.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49234 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:05 pm to
Florida?
Last 24 years

LSU?
Last 14 years

South Carolina?
Last 4 years
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68476 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:09 pm to
Only teams with 0 history go by "modern era" records.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:32 pm to
Modern history is typically defined by most as the time in which scholarships were limited...
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:38 pm to
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the goal post move depending on what favors my view




This is the correct answer. We're CFB fans. We literally can't be anything other than biased and homerish.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:40 pm to
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Only teams with 0 history go by "modern era" records.


Translation:

"Please, God, don't let them start post-segregation!"
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:41 pm to
1982
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

1982


Translation:

"Find any excuse possible to exclude the greatest coach in history from Alabama's records."
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 6:48 pm to
This thread is done son.

The question has been answered and it is time to move on.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9626 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:16 pm to
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Post 1945
Posted by Ducyborg
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2012
1191 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:16 pm to
Everyone knows football started in 2000, amiright?
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:01 pm to
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For me, personally, I don't truly care much about results/records that predate my own date of birth. To me, there's no point in exulting over successes or mourning defeats that were before my time. Jmho, though.


by this logic I'm not really sure why you would care about games you didn't personally play in.
Posted by auburn22
winter spring fl 32708
Member since Jun 2013
603 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:14 pm to
Auburn fans want the last 30 year.
bama want all time.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:15 pm to
1990.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:25 pm to
92 with conference championship games? I could go 2009 if you'd like.

Be real, all-time matters in SEC.
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:04 pm to
the answer is , post integration. after about 1970, most teams had integrated. this is when you should consider records significant and relevant to the current game. if youre bragging about a championship in the leather helmet era, youre an idiot. I know some west coast and northeastern schools integrated long before us,so I take it up to the point when everybody was on board.1970 and beyond.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:09 pm to
Post-integration. Happened between 1967 and 1973 in the SEC.

Before that, who cares? Those teams couldn't hang with modern teams. It was a different thing altogether.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:38 pm to
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by this logic I'm not really sure why you would care about games you didn't personally play in.


That's hardly where I was going with that. I enjoy the wins I got to witness, and rye the losses I've seen my team take. I can appreciate the historic significance of select results from before my time, but they don't carry the same emotional significance to me as those I've watched.
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