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re: Alabama, Georgia, and Florida are the top 3 teams in the SEC since 1970
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:27 am to Korin
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:27 am to Korin
My point about the forfeits was about the arbitrary fashion in which the ncaa does infractions, and surely there aren't many people that would debate that. I will note that I didn't even mention that fact till another poster posted the percentages.
For the record, I count 1984 among UF SEC titles. I don't know what were the other two years. I do know, though, that since 1990, UF has shown the nation how good it can be and I don't expect that to change. Watching the UF vs UGA rivalry the next several years should be fun.
For the record, I count 1984 among UF SEC titles. I don't know what were the other two years. I do know, though, that since 1990, UF has shown the nation how good it can be and I don't expect that to change. Watching the UF vs UGA rivalry the next several years should be fun.
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:48 am to RollTide1987
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5. Tennessee (.670)
6. LSU (.658)
Just goes to show as bad as Tennessee football seemed to be in the 2000s.... it wasn't close to as bad as LSU football was in the '90s.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:05 am to AU24
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For as much hate as Auburn gets we seem to be one of the most consistent teams in CFB
Auburn is like a Magic Eye drawing. Up close its wildly inconsistent and a giant mess. But when you step far back and look at longer periods of time, they are one of the most consistent programs in all of college football.
Here is their recipe:
*1 GREAT season per decade (typically resulting in a Top 2 or 3 finish)
*1-2 terrible seasons per decade (somewhere around .500)
*And the balance of the 10-year period consists of 8-win seasons.
They've followed the same script since the 1950s.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:41 am to BHMKyle
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Here is their recipe:
*1 GREAT season per decade (typically resulting in a Top 2 or 3 finish)
*1-2 terrible seasons per decade (somewhere around .500)
*And the balance of the 10-year period consists of 8-win seasons.
Went back and checked to see how close I was. Pretty close:
1950s:
2 Top 5 Finishes: 1957 (#1); 1958 (#5)
3 .500 or worse seasons: 1950, 51, 52)
6 Decent Seasons: Win% of 71.7% in these years
1960s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1963 (#5)
2 .500 or worse seasons: 1965, 66
7 Decent Seasons: Win% of 66.0% in these years
1970s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1972 (#4)
4 .500 or worse seasons: 1973, 75, 76, 77)
5 Decent Seasons: Win% of 75.9% in these years
1980s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1983 (#3)
2 .500 or worse seasons: 1980, 81
7 Decent Seasons: Win% of 77.6% in these years
1990s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1993 (#4)
4 .500 or worse seasons: 1991, 92, 98, 99
5 Decent Seasons: Win % of 73.3% in these years
2000s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 2004 (#2)
1 .500 or worse season: 2008
8 Decent Seasons: Win % of 68.6% in these years
2010s:
2 Top 5 Finishes: 2010 (#1); 2013 (#2)
1 .500 or worse season: 2012
4 Decent Seasons: Win % of 59.6% in these years
It boils down to this:
Auburn averages 1.3 great seasons in which they are in the mix for a Championship each decade.
Auburn averages 2.4 terrible seasons of a .500 or worse each decade.
Auburn averages roughly 6-7 very decent seasons consisting of a winning percentage between 60% and 75%
They've only really three times put together more than one great consecutive seasons (expanding just a bit the definition of "great"):
1957 & 1958: National Champs plus another Top 5 finish
1986-1989: 4 Consecutive Top 10 finishes w/ 3 SEC Titles
1993-1994: Undefeated in 1993 and 9-1-1 in 1994
Outside of a short portion of the 1980s, Auburn has never really been the dominant power atop the SEC. Tennessee (under Neyland and again in the late '90s), LSU (early and mid '00s), and Florida ('90s) have all had much more impressive runs of success. However, for as short-lived as their successful periods are, their "down" years also seem to be very short in length. Since the mid 1950s, Auburn has never really had a lengthy drought of success. You have to go all the way back to the late 1940s through 1952 to find a period of 5-years or more in which Auburn failed to finish in the Top 25.
I find all the patters of the major programs very interesting:
*Auburn's pattern is very distinct (as described above)
*Alabama's pattern is consistently dominant
*Georgia's pattern is by far the most steady (not as many highs but not as many lows)
*Florida's was bust to boom overnight beginning in 1990
*LSU and Tennessee seem to experience prolonged highs and lows
It's funny how history just seems to repeat itself with a lot of these programs.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:24 am to Huddie Leadbetter
please delete, i made redundant post/question that's already in this thread, sorry.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:26 am to BowlJackson
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That's honestly one of the saddest things I've ever read on this board
I know you're trying to troll so I'll just say that you're dumb for thinking that.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:50 am to BHMKyle
That took some time, I am sure, but it was interesting. Thanks.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:04 am to nc14
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Use to be? English genius.
Look mom I teach English on the rant. Bet you are proud of me now.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:04 am to nc14
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Use to be? English genius.
Look mom I teach English on the rant. Bet you are proud of me now.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:37 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Alabama, Georgia, and Florida are the top 3 teams in the SEC since 1970 by Huddie Leadbetter
How far forward or backward do you have to take it to remove Bammer from the top 3?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:49 am to RollTide1987
You're trying to claim wins that were taken from Bama because they cheated and used ineligible players and I'm dumb for calling you out?
You need a hobby other than sitting on your arse and watching teenagers run into each other if you're taking it that serious
You need a hobby other than sitting on your arse and watching teenagers run into each other if you're taking it that serious
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:04 pm to BHMKyle
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Went back and checked to see how close I was. Pretty close:
1950s:
2 Top 5 Finishes: 1957 (#1); 1958 (#5)
3 .500 or worse seasons: 1950, 51, 52)
6 Decent Seasons: Win% of 71.7% in these years
1960s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1963 (#5)
2 .500 or worse seasons: 1965, 66
7 Decent Seasons: Win% of 66.0% in these years
1970s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1972 (#4)
4 .500 or worse seasons: 1973, 75, 76, 77)
5 Decent Seasons: Win% of 75.9% in these years
1980s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1983 (#3)
2 .500 or worse seasons: 1980, 81
7 Decent Seasons: Win% of 77.6% in these years
1990s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 1993 (#4)
4 .500 or worse seasons: 1991, 92, 98, 99
5 Decent Seasons: Win % of 73.3% in these years
2000s:
1 Top 5 Finish: 2004 (#2)
1 .500 or worse season: 2008
8 Decent Seasons: Win % of 68.6% in these years
2010s:
2 Top 5 Finishes: 2010 (#1); 2013 (#2)
1 .500 or worse season: 2012
4 Decent Seasons: Win % of 59.6% in these years
It boils down to this:
Auburn averages 1.3 great seasons in which they are in the mix for a Championship each decade.
Auburn averages 2.4 terrible seasons of a .500 or worse each decade.
Auburn averages roughly 6-7 very decent seasons consisting of a winning percentage between 60% and 75%
They've only really three times put together more than one great consecutive seasons (expanding just a bit the definition of "great"):
1957 & 1958: National Champs plus another Top 5 finish
1986-1989: 4 Consecutive Top 10 finishes w/ 3 SEC Titles
1993-1994: Undefeated in 1993 and 9-1-1 in 1994
Outside of a short portion of the 1980s, Auburn has never really been the dominant power atop the SEC. Tennessee (under Neyland and again in the late '90s), LSU (early and mid '00s), and Florida ('90s) have all had much more impressive runs of success. However, for as short-lived as their successful periods are, their "down" years also seem to be very short in length. Since the mid 1950s, Auburn has never really had a lengthy drought of success. You have to go all the way back to the late 1940s through 1952 to find a period of 5-years or more in which Auburn failed to finish in the Top 25.
I find all the patters of the major programs very interesting:
*Auburn's pattern is very distinct (as described above)
*Alabama's pattern is consistently dominant
*Georgia's pattern is by far the most steady (not as many highs but not as many lows)
*Florida's was bust to boom overnight beginning in 1990
*LSU and Tennessee seem to experience prolonged highs and lows
It's funny how history just seems to repeat itself with a lot of these programs.
Excellent post!!
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:09 pm to BowlJackson
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Throwing a paid for laptop is totally as bad as carrying out a hit on a booster after he got caught paying a mediocre DL $200,000 in 2000
Sir Charles said it best..."Alabama accusing Auburn of cheating is like Snooki telling Halle Berry she's ugly"
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:19 pm to BowlJackson
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You're trying to claim wins that were taken from Bama because they cheated and used ineligible players and I'm dumb for calling you out?
It is what it is. Alabama deserved to forfeit the games in 1993. Langham was an idiot for "signing" with an agent and lying.
The textbook case is altogether different. The NCAA was woefully inconsistent in doling out punishment. Ball State and Nebraska had nearly identical cases and scated. It was also a textbook system that any student, not just athletes, benefited from. So not exactly providing benefits to a select few. Just those on academic/athletic scholarships. But I guess Alabama paid for having under staffed compliance under Mike Shula.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:23 pm to BowlJackson
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Throwing a paid for laptop is totally as bad as carrying out a hit on a booster after he got caught paying a mediocre DL $200,000 in 2000
Just when you think that it can't get any better....you catch another gear!Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:29 pm to coachcrisp
Because if the REC was going to assassinate Logan Young it would be 5 years after the NCAA case.
You put that man in the ground before the NCAA can even think of talking to him, if you're going down that road.
You put that man in the ground before the NCAA can even think of talking to him, if you're going down that road.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:33 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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You put that man in the ground before the NCAA can even think of talking to him, if you're going down that road.
Unless the motivation was to keep the other potential rats in the REC from ever talking.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:43 pm to TailbackU
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Unless the motivation was to keep the other potential rats in the REC from ever talking.
Damn!...they're coming out of the woodwork now!
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:48 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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I always liked LSU ok.
Well it doesn't like you.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:55 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Alabama, Georgia, and Florida are the top 3 teams in the SEC since 1970
Not to be "that guy", but what happened in 1970 to make it historically relevant in this context?
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