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re: Alabama fans, tell us how good (or bad) Jacob Coker will be.

Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:48 pm to
I didn't think it biased. Pretty much what everyone already knows...it's an unknown till end of fall practice and a starter is named. We'll see.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:51 pm to
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He wouldn't be the first underrated qb to have a great college career outside the state (Philip Rivers, anyone?)
Crazy that he was recruited as a tight end by both Auburn and Alabama.

That would have been one, goofy, awkward tight end.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:51 pm to
Did you expect any better?

One big difference is that Malzahn is proven in developing QB's, Kiffin isn't.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:53 pm to
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Did you expect any better?
From him, not really. His post history backs up any notion of him being a complete fricktard.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:53 pm to
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One big difference is that Malzahn is proven in developing QB's, Kiffin isn't.



Maybe, but he has spent 3 years under a guy who has produced 2 first round QB's (Manuel & Ponder) and most likely a 3rd in Winston.
Posted by Garfield
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:55 pm to
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Who knows? but I believe he can be pretty good. If auburn can take a team mate robbing criminal converted safety who looks like a retarded sloth and go to the nc, Alabama should easily be able to win a couple with Coker.


I always thought he looks like a rat but all the Ratatouille picks I find on google images are smiling and he usually does not smile so maybe you are right.




Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:56 pm to
True, like it was pointed out in article on first page, this will be a big help.
Posted by Kneehigh
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:58 pm to
Just for shits and giggles... Coker was listed as the starting QB going into spring. It wasn't until the final week of practice before the opening game that Famous was named the starter...
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:00 pm to
I kinda think the whole issue is a little overstated anyway. If he gets the starting job and turns out not to be a gunslinger, Bama will just run more. They've won a lot of games doing that.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:02 pm to


Definitely the guy off the water boy
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Go frick yourself, bitch.
careful, You will hurt my feelings and I will have to RA
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:04 pm to
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One big difference is that Malzahn is proven in developing QB's, Kiffin isn't.


That's a bit of a generalization without sufficient evidence. Do you blame Malzahn for Mitch Mustain's failure? If so, it probably isn't fair - it's more on Nutt's stubbornness. If not, how are you evaluating Kiffin in this aspect?

Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:08 pm to
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For those that don't know who he is, here's a short history. Best offer out of high school was Florida State (Duke, Arkansas State, South Alabama, Mississippi State) until Alabama offered as a back-up plan late in the process, gathered mediocre stats while at Florida State in the small amount of time he saw, ran a Wing-T offense in high school, and is coming off knee surgery and rehabilitation. We have heard he has a strong arm, and has some running ability.



I see the point of this thread now. No answer other than mediocre will be what you're looking for.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:10 pm to
Feel free to dispute anything within that paragraph. Did I get something wrong?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:11 pm to
I attribute Cam and , to a large degree, Marshall to Malzahn. Kiffin has always had a QB coach under him. I've tried to ascertain several times exactly how much actual QB teaching Kiffin has done and can't really get an answer. So we'll see coming up.
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:12 pm to
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That's a bit of a generalization without sufficient evidence. Do you blame Malzahn for Mitch Mustain's failure?


Mustain was 8-0 with Gus as his OC. Look at what happened with Mustain without Gus as his OC. Very bad situation to try and make your comparison.
Posted by thatdude1985
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:14 pm to
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He isn't Nick Marshall with Gus either. Nick saw much more playing time at qb in high school and led a JUCO team for a full year. Even then, Nick did not have time to get the playbook down (Gus said we only ran 20% or so through the first half of the season) or get the timing where you need it with the receivers.

Coker has Kiffin to coach him. Not Gus who is the best in the business at tailoring an offense around what his qb can do.

I will not be bothered if Coker wins the job. I will most likely view it as bama not really having anyone they are comfortable with as I do not see how you get a real comfort level with a qb that has no meaningful college snaps under his belt and only has a few weeks of practices in pads right before the season starts.


Are you serious? You get your QB's the same way every year....next year it'll be the guy who stole the ATM machine who just so happens to be a 4 star QB. I thought it was pretty obvious that we aren't stacked at QB and could use any transfer immediately.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by CrimsonChin
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:17 pm to
Who knows man. It kind of tells you that Nick hasn't recruited a competent QB to replace AJ and that's troubling considering we constantly rake in the #1 rated class each year. I guess he's no worse than what we already have.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:17 pm to
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quote:
That's a bit of a generalization without sufficient evidence. Do you blame Malzahn for Mitch Mustain's failure?


Mustain was 8-0 with Gus as his OC. Look at what happened with Mustain without Gus as his OC. Very bad situation to try and make your comparison.


Actually, it's the perfect situation to make my point. Judging the ability to "develop" a QB isn't a straightforward thing. My point was that if you strictly look at the success of a QB under a specific OC, you could draw a very wrong conclusion - like the one with Mustain.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:21 pm to
What I get from these threads. Posters were sure Bama would suck next year without a QB. Now they are worried Coker may change that. Just relax people. These threads won't make you feel any better.
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