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Alabama fans, tell me about the Crimson Tide offensive line

Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:50 pm
I know everyone wants to look at LSU's OL vs Bama's DL but I think the game will be decided when Alabama has the football.

How does your OL matchup vs the LSU DL?

What are their weaknesses?

What blocking scheme and plays are they best at running?

Are there any injuries that will affect their play in the game?

This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:52 pm to
They've allowed 13 sacks. LOL
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:52 pm to
With Ryan Kelly, DL are doing this
Without Ryan Kelly, DL are doing this
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:55 pm to
Worst OL since Sabans first year, he'll maybe even worse than that line. The RT is hurt. I don't know if he will play. The best OLman is the center. The worst could be any of the other four.

One play they block really well, the next a DLineman is hitting our RB as he is taking the handoff. When Drake is in they don't block at all.

They are a big part of the problem with Coker. He has taken some big hits and is pressured and sacked often.

frick. They need to play the best game of the year Saturday.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:56 pm to
Is there a question as to whether he'll play? I expected both teams to be rather close to full strength (minus Gordon and possibly Moore and Lacoture on the LSU side)
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:57 pm to
Easily the weakest unit on the team. They fall back on run-plays and get too aggressive and hold too blatantly on play-action. They get blown up more often than a Children's Hospital in Syria.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16980 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I know everyone wants to look at LSU's OL vs Bama's DL but I think the game will be decided when Alabama has the football.

How does your OL matchup vs the LSU DL?

What are their weaknesses?

What blocking scheme and plays are they best at running?

Are there any injuries that will affect their play in the game?




Honestly the easiest thing to say is Rushing OL is fine, not elite but does well, Pass Pro is sub par.

Dom Jackson the right tackle is questionable to play ( high ankle sprain) but also the biggest offender in the pass pro let down. We have other options.

They seem to do best with Toss Sweep, Counter, and FB Dive. Other than that Pop pass is OK, Speed sweep is awful, screen is meh. We will likely test you on the edge and toss and run at the DE's. Maybe they will have a reckoning with pass pro but Jake will have greatly reduced time as LSU will bring the house.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:59 pm to
Some plays we open holes big enough for Henry to run 30 yards without being touched. Other plays they block so poorly that Ridley gets tackled on the jet sweep before he takes the hand off.
When they do things right, its very good, when they do things wrong, its very bad. And the two extremes can take place on consecutive plays.

VERY FRUSTRATING!
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Is there a question as to whether he'll play.


I'm sure he'll play, but he's definitely not 100%.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 1:59 pm to
Inconsistent is the best word to describe our line.

Talent is there, but they make some boneheaded plays every game. They've also blown open some huge holes in the running game this year though. They're inconsistent.

From what I've seen of LSU, it's not a vintage lsu line. A good but not great group like we saw with Brockers and Logan. I like Neal, reminds me a lot of Wallace Gilberry. I guess if there's a good thing we've seen comparable lines this year. Ole Miss and Texas A&M are both good up front (if good at different things) and Tennessee and Arkansas are good up front. This will be a stalemate IMO. Lsu will win some and Bama will win some
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38215 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:00 pm to
I really think that's the story of this game and why LSU fans are much more confident than they have been in the past. LSU's OL is the best in Miles' tenure and the DL is good enough to generate pressure and stop the run consistently.

I think with LaCouture in and healthy he will be crucial piece to disrupting Alabama's OL. He's basically a hybrid nose tackle that commands double teams and if he can get Kelly to hold onto him long enough, Godchaux, Key, and Neal can play their man with no worries.


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I guess if there's a good thing we've seen comparable lines this year. Ole Miss and Texas A&M are both good up front (if good at different things) and Tennessee is good up front.


I don't think LSU's DL is as good as A&M's or Tennessee's tbh. Our WDE is young and lean but plays with great technique and leverage. The difference between Ole Miss, A&M, and UT is that LSU has two of the best LBs in the country in Beckwith and Jones. It'll be interesting to see how Bama's OL plays if/when they reach the second level.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16980 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:00 pm to
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quote:
Is there a question as to whether he'll play.


I'm sure he'll play, but he's definitely not 100%.


It's very questionable at this point, very. Trust me.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:03 pm to
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How does your OL matchup vs the LSU DL?



Ehhhhh

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What are their weaknesses?



Defensive players

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What blocking scheme and plays are they best at running?



None

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Are there any injuries that will affect their play in the game?



Maybe Dom Jackson
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38215 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:04 pm to
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It's very questionable at this point, very. Trust me.


The center or right tackle?
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:05 pm to
It sucks.

/topic
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
4958 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:05 pm to
Ive seen he was questionable but is there much of a drop off after him because he looked pretty bad against Tenn
Posted by hambone213
Member since Oct 2012
442 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:05 pm to
Not as good as normal for Alabama. LSU could certainly exploit our O-line if they play their cards right.

I think it depends on health mostly. We have been so damn inconsistent and I think that is mostly due to injuries.

C-Rob has been hurt all year. Maybe the bye week helps or maybe the injury is still bothering him. We will just have to wait and see. He really hasnt played great this year (because he is playing injured)

Kelly was hurt (concussion) but came back for the TN and he should be fine. When playing he is a very good center.

D. Jackson...I know he is hurt but I can't really seem to remember if he is playing for LSU. Regardless if he plays..he is playing hurt. I think its an ankle or something like that? maybe foot?

I think those 3 are the key healthwise.

When our o-line is for the most part healthy we look pretty good. Look at the Wisconsin or GA game. Or even TAMU in the first half (Kelly went out at the end of the first half and all of a sudden we couldnt run the ball as well).

When the OL isn't healthy....our offense just isnt that great. When they are we look like a damn good team though.

It all just depends on health. This bye week was huge for Bama to get a little healthier on the o line. No way to know until the game though.

Something else that is huge is penalties. We have had a bad habit of penalties causing us to have 2 and long 3rd and long.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13502 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:08 pm to
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What are their weaknesses?




Robert Nkemdiche
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3223 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

How does your OL matchup vs the LSU DL?
The O line has been inconsistent. LSU's dline is not as good as it has been previously but I have to give them the edge.

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What are their weaknesses?
Pass blocking without a doubt, followed closely by Lane Kiffin's play calling. Guy just refuses to run the ball at times. We do not have a good blocking and catching TE, you see 88 in the game he's a receiver. You see 58 or other they're in for blocking assistance.

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What blocking scheme and plays are they best at running?
Zone. Run off of left tackle. WR screens. Have possession receiver in Mullaney. He will be the go-to guy in must-have 3rd down situations. Calvin Ridley has shown out on pass plays. Ardarius Stewart has come on strong after a weak first half of the season. Good recieving TE in OJ Howard. Have to say that left tackle has been the biggest disappointment. He's been an open door to the smaller speed rushers.

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Are there any injuries that will affect their play in the game?
LT has an ankle/foot that has caused issues all year. RT has an ankle. Center had a concussion against A&M and his loss was a HUGE reason for A&M coming back in the game.
I'll go ahead and add Kenyan Drake with the thigh injury and also mention that Kiffin is obvious on his play calls with Drake in the game and we're not good enough to overcome those plays most of the time.

EDIT: Really need to add that negative plays have been a huge problem as well. Pre-snap stuff. Lots of 1st and 15s that we CANNOT afford against LSU. May be the true difference minus special teams.

One final thing re: zone blocking and Derrick Henry. He's a beast, but he needs an extra few steps to get up to speed. Zone blocking does not favor this style and his success to date is a testament to his ability.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38215 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:11 pm to
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Have to say that left tackle has been the biggest disappointment. He's been an open door to the smaller speed rushers.


Arden Key vs Cam Robinson will be entertaining all night.
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