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re: Alabama-Clemson 1&2...which was more fun to watch?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:59 am to FourThreeForty
Posted on 3/24/17 at 11:59 am to FourThreeForty
As a whole, the second game was more fun.
However, the onside kick and kickoff return in the first game were great highlights, especially when Dabo went apeshit during the onside kick.
However, the onside kick and kickoff return in the first game were great highlights, especially when Dabo went apeshit during the onside kick.
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:00 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Game one had the lesser team stealing the game with a cheap onside kick
Umm, no. Game one had the team with the better coach and a spot-on scouting report call a gutsy onsides kick that changed the game.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:05 pm to FourThreeForty
Honestly I'd rank Alabama-Clemson 1 as only the 4th most satisfying Alabama NC to watch in the last 8 years.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:07 pm to SlowEasyConfident
Kinda like that cheap pick play, huh?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:08 pm to FourThreeForty
I assume most people will say #2 since Alabama lost, but the first game was full of so many big plays and momentum changes that I think it was a far more exciting back and forth game. This year's just kinda trudged through until the last few minutes.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:09 pm to crimson_dej
That wasn't a pick. Alabama corner pretty much tackled the receiver
Posted on 3/24/17 at 12:12 pm to elposter
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Honestly I'd rank Alabama-Clemson 1 as only the 4th most satisfying Alabama NC to watch in the last 8 years.
I'd put it 3rd behind Texas and LSU. Yea beating the hell out of Notre Dame was fun and some good payback from years gone by, but we all knew that was going to happen going in
The first one (Texas) and then the utter destruction of LSU are clearly #1 and #2, but the thrilling game against Clemson (and the fact that we won a NC with Jake Coker somehow) puts it above ND for me.Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:58 pm to FourThreeForty
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p. A successful onside kick.
CLemson had a successful onside kick this year, after scoring the winning TD.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:06 pm to FourThreeForty
I'll pick the first one, and it has nothing to do with who won or lost. If we're talking pure entertainment from watching the top two teams in the country play for all the marbles, the first one wins in a walk because -- and I image many of y'all aren't going to agree about your current player -- it was absolutely painful to watch Hurts try to get an offense going. He was just awful, and ultimately the viewer was just hoping Hurts wouldn't try to pass because the result was almost never going to be pretty. So it didn't feel like watching the two best teams playing, it felt like watching one team implode because their quarterback just couldn't handle the spotlight from the biggest stage of his career thus far. It just wasn't fun to watch from a football fan's perspective.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:07 pm to randomways
hurts scored a 35 yard td with 2 minutes left. i think his performance was similar to the bama QB the year before, a lot of bad plays but some huge chunk plays.
obviously the 2nd one was better b/c Clemson only went ahead with 1 second left.
that last drive was like something out of a movie. it was the greatest redemption story in sports of all time.
obviously the 2nd one was better b/c Clemson only went ahead with 1 second left.
that last drive was like something out of a movie. it was the greatest redemption story in sports of all time.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:17 pm to Tillman
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hurts scored a 35 yard td with 2 minutes left. i think his performance was similar to the bama QB the year before, a lot of bad plays but some huge chunk plays.
Haven't rewatched it, but no. The qb in the first one -- I've already forgotten his name -- could actually hit a target consistently. Hurts was all over the place. It just gave me a headache. I grant they were unsettled at OC, but that didn't account for the passing problems.
Edit: Coker. Jacob Coker. That was the quarterback's name.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:20 pm to FourThreeForty
The first game.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:21 pm to randomways
most of the plays both years for Bama were big chunk plays. the first year it was mostly all big chunk plays to Howard.
i thought Bama's offense was better against CLemson than Washington so i don't understand mentioning the OC. the reason saban let Kiffen go is he thought Kiffen wasn't engaged against Washington.
one of the biggest plays on Bama's last scoring drive was a trick play. you have to give the OC some credit for that.
kiffen's offense only scored 10 points against LSU.
i thought Bama's offense was better against CLemson than Washington so i don't understand mentioning the OC. the reason saban let Kiffen go is he thought Kiffen wasn't engaged against Washington.
one of the biggest plays on Bama's last scoring drive was a trick play. you have to give the OC some credit for that.
kiffen's offense only scored 10 points against LSU.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:30 pm to Tillman
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most of the plays both years for Bama were big chunk plays. the first year it was mostly all big chunk plays to Howard.
i thought Bama's offense was better against CLemson than Washington so i don't understand mentioning the OC. the reason saban let Kiffen go is he thought Kiffen wasn't engaged against Washington.
Yes, there were big plays. I'm not sure what you think this is evidence of. Big plays are usually crucial in games between two top teams with few weakness that can be exploited consistently. That doesn't mean Hurts was anywhere near as accurate as Coker.
I mentioned the OC because people will (quite rightly in many cases) lay the blame there. My point is that the OC wasn't the one making Hurts an inaccurate passer. That was on Hurts himself. In other words, it actually gives Clemson oblique support by taking away the "well, we had a new OC with one week's experience calling plays" excuse, at least as far as Hurts is concerned.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:31 pm to randomways
Hurts is a better runner than Coker. It was bama's defense that lost the game in the end, not Hurts.
SPecial teams is main reason Bama won the first year, not Coker.
SPecial teams is main reason Bama won the first year, not Coker.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:34 pm to Tillman
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Hurts is a better runner than Coker.
SPecial teams is main reason Bama won the first year, not Coker.
I just looked it up real quick. Five touchdowns between Coker and Derrick Henry. With XPs, that's 35 out of 45 points. Do you actually know what special teams are?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:37 pm to randomways
that onside kick got Coker another possession. do you understand that possession is important in football?
obviously that speical teams TD was a difference maker in the game. Do you understand that 7 points by special teams in the 4th game of a clsoe game is a big deal?
just curious, do you ever talk about Vandy sports or is all brown nose Alabama.
obviously that speical teams TD was a difference maker in the game. Do you understand that 7 points by special teams in the 4th game of a clsoe game is a big deal?
just curious, do you ever talk about Vandy sports or is all brown nose Alabama.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Game two had the best player and team coming through clutch in the end. Game one had the lesser team stealing the game with a cheap onside kick
FYI, everyone here wishes your father would have pulled out or that your mother would have swallowed you...
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:42 pm to Tillman
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that onside kick got Coker another possession. do you understand that possession is important in football?
And how many possessions is going 2-14 on 3rd down worth? You say Bama's defense lost it this year but then turn around and say that ST costed Clemson all of the touchdowns in 2015
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 4:48 pm to Tillman
Hurts was most definitely responsible. The defense was on the field way too long. When you have a bunch of 1st round WRs and a Heisman type QB tossing the ball to them, you're gonna have a tired defense. Especially when the offense goes 3 and out every single drive.
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