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re: AJ Mccaron should not win the Heisman.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:47 am to RollTide MJ
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:47 am to RollTide MJ
quote:dont forget Greg m!
But I agree with your title. AJ is not a Heisman winning player. His greatness spans a career, and he will very possibly go down as the greatest quarterback to play at Alabama, even among names like Namath, Stabler, and Starr
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:47 am to Downtown dawg
McCarron is as deserving as anybody this season, but I give the nod to JFF because of AJ's horrible chest tattoo.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:49 am to BreakawayZou83
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McCarron is as deserving as anybody this season, but I give the nod to JFF because of AJ's horrible chest tattoo.
Because that silly tattoo has anything to do with the level of play
He is lucky to be alive at all, I'll give him a pass on silly tattoos.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:50 am to Crimson Legend
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You have a solid point but you go overboard to an ignorant level. He does not just hand the ball off, that's stupid.
But I agree with your title. AJ is not a Heisman winning player. His greatness spans a career, and he will very possibly go down as the greatest quarterback to play at Alabama, even among names like Namath, Stabler, and Starr.
The Heisman is not a career award. Frankly, it's a hyped up bull shite award. But AJ is not the most outstanding football player in the country.
And a lone beacon of sanity emerges amongst all of the insecure responses by bama fans.
Thank you, sir. You have restored my faith that there are still some of your kind moving about our planet.
This is a good day.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 10:51 am
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:50 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Because that silly tattoo has anything to do with the level of play
I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:52 am to Downtown dawg
How boring. all he does is WIN. That "winning" thing is soooooooooo overrated.
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:52 am to RonBurgundySliver
Alabama won with Greg Mcshitty. Alabama could win with Dobbs at quarterback. Alabama does not win because of the QB
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:52 am to Libertyabides71
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But not the best player this year in college football. True.
Heisman is not about "who is the best..." It is about who is "the most important, valuable..."
Let me ask this... what would Alabama's record look like the past three years without AJ at QB? Just imagine plugging in someone else at QB ... does Alabama go 36-2 with 2-3 NCs?
Now... imagine removing any other player at Alabama the last three years, other than AJ, from the team, Lacy, Barrett Jones, etc. Does Alabama win 2-3 NCs in that situation. Do they lose more games?
Answer question #1: Without AJ, record would probably be 2-3 losses per year.
Answer question #2: Remove any other player and Alabama's record probably remains unaffected.
That should answer the question...
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:53 am to GoldenDawg
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GoldenDawg
Interestingly McCarron could be left out of the College Football Hall of Fame because he has to be first team all-American his senior year.
The best QB by achievement in Bama history could be left out of the HOF? Come on.
Bama fans are right to circle the wagon about AJ's perception.
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FYI his career is over once he graduates. He'll get drafted and probably play 2nd string somewhere for a while but that's it. We all know how it is in the NFL. The competition and intensity is way higher. Quite frankly this guy doesn't have what it takes to make it in the NFL. Another Tebow.
AJ will be drafted and I think has a great chance at starting some games.
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:54 am to GoldenDawg
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insecure responses by bama fans
Didn't realize my response was insecure.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:54 am to Jacknola
thats just not true. AJ has probably won maybe 5 games in his career due solely because of him. If you take off Ingram, or Richardson, yea i bet they do lose a game or two
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:57 am to Jacknola
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Heisman is not about "who is the best..." It is about who is "the most important..."
Let me ask this... what would Alabama's record look like the past three years without AJ at QB? Just plug in someone else at QB ... does Alabama go 36-2 with 2-3 NCs?
Now... imagine any other player at Alabama the last three years, other than AJ, was not on the team ... does Alabama win 2-3 NCs?
Answer question #1: Record would probably be 2-3 losses per year.
Answer question #2: Remove any other player and Alabama's record probably remains the same.
That should answer the question...
If that answers the question, then AJ shouldn't win the Heisman. There are a number of QBs that could've stepped in and led Bama to the same record. Again - just my opinion.
Now, don't get me wrong. AJ is a very good QB. But flip the question around. If AJ was not at Alabama, would his team have a record anywhere close to Bama's? That should answer the question.
Put him in Georgia and our record does not change, and probably is worse. Same if you put him at A&M, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina, etc.
Now, put JFF at Georgia and I think we get better. So does Missouri, South Carolina, Florida, LSU, even [gasp] Alabama.
So there's your answer. Again, just my opinion, but AJ is not the best player in the country (or even the conference) at his position, let alone the best player in the country.
But he is very good.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:58 am to Downtown dawg
Look at the list of Heisman winning QB's and I'll show you a bunch of NFL washouts and underachievers.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:58 am to GoldenDawg
yes!!!! exactly!!!
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:59 am to Downtown dawg
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thats just not true. AJ has probably won maybe 5 games in his career due solely because of him. If you take off Ingram, or Richardson, yea i bet they do lose a game or two
Why wasn't Matt Leinart held to this insane standard?
So a top 25 team player can't win? The voters don't know that apparently.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 10:59 am to MagicCityBlazer
i still think Taj Boyd should be up there. Take him off Clemson and BOOM his team drops tremendously
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:00 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Why do you care?
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But again, why do you care?
Why do you care that he cares?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:00 am to Downtown dawg
They guys not even Alabama's best player, how can anyone say he is the best football player in American college football? This is not an award for loyalty and consistency.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:01 am to Downtown dawg
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i still think Taj Boyd should be up there. Take him off Clemson and BOOM his team drops tremendously
What does that have to do with being 'outstanding'?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:01 am to Downtown dawg
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thats just not true. AJ has probably won maybe 5 games in his career due solely because of him. If you take off Ingram, or Richardson, yea i bet they do lose a game or two
Bull Shite: behind Ingram was Richardson. Behind Richardson was Lacy. Behind Lacy was... (fill in the blank). Behind X was Y. Behind Y was Z throughtout this period.
Who was behind AJ who could have filled his place? No one. Without him Alabama probably wins neither of the NCs, nor is in contention this year.
I suggest you quit parroting other stupid peoples stupid paralyzed thought processes. Just like Lacy is a proto-typically pro running back despite what was said about him pre-draft, McCarron is the prototypical pro QB who will likely not only start in the NFL but have a stellar career.
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