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re: Ags, how does the Kyle/Kyler battle go for the rest of the season/into 2016?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:07 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:07 am to thunderbird1100
78 passes in two seasons? Woh!!!
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:09 am to WestCoastAg
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78 passes in two seasons? Woh!!!
He was the backup, what was he supposed to throw it 300 times?
A little more data than "one half" of football. Well over 800 yards, a little more than chump change.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:10 am to DBU
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IMHO, it was a mistake not redshirting Kyler this year.
I'm guessing that he was promised some playing time as a freshman if he came to A&M instead of going to the minors. Sometimes it looks like he is put out there just to be out there. I think he is going to be good one day but he is too young.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:10 am to thunderbird1100
quote:and thats why its hilarious he was being hyped as a heisman trophy winner. like its the exact reason
He was the backup
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:11 am to WestCoastAg
the point was it was a fairly large sample size for a backup and he played OUTSTANDING, not just decent, good or even very good. There were legitimate on field reasons behind his hype.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to The Egg
It's tough to say and has a lot to do with how Allen performs the rest of the year obviously. This next week is huge for him as a bounce back week.
I agree with you that I think he's a much better QB than he showed last weekend, and I actually have a lot more confidence in him than Kyler. I do agree that I don't see Kyler waiting in the wings for very long. He does not look pleased when he's rotated out of games.
If I were forced to predict I would say Allen plays well and Murray eventually transfers, but I hope I'm wrong and he sticks around. He has the physical ability to be special, I just think he needs more coaching and experience. As was mentioned he should be a big contributor on the baseball team as a freshman, so maybe that will help
I do think Kyler will have a small role as a change of pace QB though for the rest of the year
I agree with you that I think he's a much better QB than he showed last weekend, and I actually have a lot more confidence in him than Kyler. I do agree that I don't see Kyler waiting in the wings for very long. He does not look pleased when he's rotated out of games.
If I were forced to predict I would say Allen plays well and Murray eventually transfers, but I hope I'm wrong and he sticks around. He has the physical ability to be special, I just think he needs more coaching and experience. As was mentioned he should be a big contributor on the baseball team as a freshman, so maybe that will help
I do think Kyler will have a small role as a change of pace QB though for the rest of the year
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 11:13 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to DBU
Sumlin may have promised Kyler he wouldn't be reshirted before Kyler committed.
At this point would be better to have packages Kyler runs in every game so they both know their role.
No way do I see Kyler transferring and sitting out a year.
At this point would be better to have packages Kyler runs in every game so they both know their role.
No way do I see Kyler transferring and sitting out a year.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to rockiee
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I'm guessing that he was promised some playing time as a freshman if he came to A&M instead of going to the minors. Sometimes it looks like he is put out there just to be out there. I think he is going to be good one day but he is too young.
This is most likely true, doesn't make it any less of a mistake. He will definitely get better, I just don't think wasting this year was worth it. Just my two cents.
He probably ends up playing professional baseball rather than football anyways.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to thunderbird1100
quote:and the point is, he was a backup who didnt have an actual large sample size and thats why it was hilarious
he point was it was a fairly large sample size for a backup and he played OUTSTANDING
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:19 am to The Egg
Kyler is not ready for SEC play. He should have been redshirted, and I think his father's influence had something to do with him not. Set his kid back, IMO.
Kyle had a bad game, but overall has been a good QB and is still a true sophomore. He stays the starter, and after seeing Kyler's performances, I'm ok with him transferring if that's what he wants.
Kyle had a bad game, but overall has been a good QB and is still a true sophomore. He stays the starter, and after seeing Kyler's performances, I'm ok with him transferring if that's what he wants.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:22 am to WestCoastAg
After Kyle Allen leaves for the Draft or graduates, Tate Martell will beat out Kyler if Kyler doesn't improve his passing game significantly. Tate can run and throw.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:56 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I posted this on tArk but unless Kyler develops some arm strength and/or precision, I don't see how he will ever succeed as a starter in the SEC
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:05 pm to Boomer00
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We aren't really sure why that kid ended up at aTm Kyle looks pretty good. Sumlin Is just a beast recruiter I guess.
Before JFF, Kyler's dad was the greatest QB in A&M history. Kyler grew up as an Aggie fan. His name is literally inspired by "Kyle Field".
Sumlin has a history of producing great QBs. And if Allen is good enough to keep the starting job, he goes pro after his Jr. year, meaning Kyler only has to wait two years.
How is it difficult to understand why Kyler chose A&M?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:09 pm to DBU
Kyler wouldn't have come to A&M if he had to redshirt most likely. Thought he was better than he is
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:12 pm to DBU
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He probably ends up playing professional baseball rather than football anyways.
And this is partly why he wasn't redshirted. If the coaches think they only get three years out of him, there's no use saving him. I personally don't think giving him playing time is doing damage to his development. He doesn't have the weight of the team on his shoulders, and he's getting an idea of what live games are like.
Plus, there really was a need for him to be the backup, because we've been hit really hard by QB transfers. That tends to happen when a RS Freshman wins the job in 2012, and a true Freshman eventually wins the job in 2014.
The only other reasonable candidate is first year JUCO QB Jake Hubanak.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:14 pm to The Egg
Murray has turned the ball over on most drives he's participated. Both have issues. A&M would have lost opening game if they would have left Murray in.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:34 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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As our starting shortstop now that Blake Allemand has graduated.
I agree. Due to his size, Kyler has a much better chance of a MLB career than the NFL. I think that part of the reason that he came here is that we're competitive in both.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:57 pm to The Egg
I used to think it would be okay bringing him in for a series each half, sort of what we have been doing. Unfortunately, he's young and cocky enough to think the job should be his, and he's trying to win the starting job with every throw. I don't think he's mature enough to handle such a small role without trying to do too much, and I think we just need to let Kyle run with it til he absolutely fricks up royally like on Saturday and we need a change of pace.
Kyler didn't want to redshirt, and if he's frustrated the guy in front of him is only a sophomore, well that's the consequence of deciding not to redshirt. O well.
Kyler didn't want to redshirt, and if he's frustrated the guy in front of him is only a sophomore, well that's the consequence of deciding not to redshirt. O well.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:44 pm to TeLeFaWx
yeah i haven't watched much a&m, but the body language on either qb when they've been taken out is a lil 'off.' However, that's to be understood, they both have a lil maturing to do with respect to that. If Murray does transfer, it'd be insane to see him in that TCU offense, though. that's if he transfers...
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:44 pm to The Egg
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Obviously Kyle is your starter, but Spav does like to get Kyler in the game for a few plays. However, I don't see Kyler playing second fiddle for too long, especially if he doesn't beat out Kyle next year. IMO, Allen a much better qb than he showed vs Bama, and should be able to operate/run that offense as long as he's there. I just don't see Murray beating him out next year, though. So where's that leave Murray in the grand scheme of things?
Playing baseball.
Seriously, I think that's where his pro future (if he has one) lies. Every short QB wants to be the next Russell Wilson but the odds on that a pretty long. Kyler's stature looks much more like his uncle Calvin (who played baseball at Texas and some in the pros) than his father Kevin, who had more of a prototypical QB build.
So, as long as Allen stays healthy, and doesn't make a habit of throwing pick 6s, then I would expect Murray to get nothing more than spot duty in close games, or mop up duty in blowouts.
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