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re: After watching NFL OT, College OT may be the one thing the NCAA gets right

Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:22 pm to
So what happens in college when the first team throws a pick 6? That teams defense never gets a shot
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:28 pm to
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So what happens in college when the first team throws a pick 6? That teams defense never gets a shot


Statistically, pick 6s are pretty damned rare.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:31 pm to
No one has it right.

Just play another 10-minute period. Whoever is ahead wins. If no one is ahead, it's a tie.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 6:32 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:34 pm to
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So what happens in college when the first team throws a pick 6? That teams defense never gets a shot


I'm pretty sure in college OT rules if it's team with the first offensive possession it gets blown dead upon INT.
Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:36 pm to
a fat guy tried to ride a bike at end of OT game so i won't criticize NFL rules
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:37 pm to
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If no one is ahead, it's a tie.


Then who do you send to the Super Bowl in the event the tie happens in an AFC/NFC Championship game?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:41 pm to
I agree, college OT isn't perfect but is a lot better than the NFL's.

The NFL's is recently improved to. The fact a FG used to win it was extra absurd.
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:42 pm to
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I'm pretty sure in college OT rules if it's team with the first offensive possession it gets blown dead upon INT.



Absolutely not. If the defense scores the game is over. This has happened in a few games.

If you forced the other team to go after a defensive score all they would do is take 4 knees.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:47 pm to
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So what happens in college when the first team throws a pick 6? That teams defense never gets a shot


It's like baseball rules for the bottom of the 9th. If the team on offense for the last possession is winning, then the game is over. There is essentially no point to play the last possession, unless you want the defense forced to be assholes and hope there is a bad snap by trying to jump the center with three guys over him.
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:48 pm to
The college rule sucks. Takes the kicking game out of it (except Fgs).
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:51 pm to
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Absolutely not. If the defense scores the game is over. This has happened in a few games.

If you forced the other team to go after a defensive score all they would do is take 4 knees.



Fair enough. I was confusing it with if it's not a pick 6 and it's just a turnover I guess.
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:57 pm to
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The college rule sucks. Takes the kicking game out of it (except Fgs)


I get the point, but I'm not sure the kicking game is important enough to claim taking it out makes the college rule "suck". Unless you're playing Beamerball, ST play doesn't have quite the same importance as offense and defense. They're unquestionably integral to the game of football, but they're still a slight step below the other two aspects in terms of reliable significance.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:59 pm to
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So what happens in college when the first team throws a pick 6? That teams defense never gets a shot



Yeah, they should make the other team's offense go out there and take a knee four times. Give that defense a chance to force a fumble and run it back.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 7:02 pm to
You missed the point. People are basically saying that football is a complete team sport and that one unit shouldn't be able to lose a game in overtime.

Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 7:18 pm to
If you have two teams with incredible offenses and bad defenses then it doesn't really decide who the better team is, just that they scored first after winning the coin toss. The other team could have easily done the same but lost out of the luck of which side the coin landed
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 7:21 pm to
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ST play doesn't have quite the same importance as offense and defense. They're unquestionably integral to the game of football, but they're still a slight step below the other two aspects in terms of reliable significance.




There's a reason they say football has 3 phases and not "2 phases plus some kicking mixed in there somewhere." This statement is absurd.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 7:26 pm to
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You missed the point. People are basically saying that football is a complete team sport and that one unit shouldn't be able to lose a game in overtime.


No theyre not, just saying if one team scores a TD, then the other team should get a shot to do the same.

As for the pick 6....., it never happens and that's a game over type mistake. One offense had a chance and blew it, the other team doesn't need to use their offense.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:17 pm to
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There's a reason they say football has 3 phases and not "2 phases plus some kicking mixed in there somewhere." This statement is absurd.



Yeah, hilarious. Good for you on offering a cogent counterpoint. If you honestly think STs are as instrumental in deciding games on a regular basis as offense and defense, you should be able to demonstrate that in some logical fashion. Have at it. I acknowledged they were integral to the game, but that's not the same thing as saying all units are created equal. There's a good reason why lots of players get their start on STs before moving up to offense and defense.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3058 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 8:34 pm to
Agree. First score is B.S. The other team should have a chance to score as well.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:01 pm to
No one in the thread has bothered to cite that after 4 quarters of football the defense is going to be worn the F out. The offense has this advantage in addition to all of the latest rules changes. Throw in the 'sudden death [touchdown]' part of the current NFL OT system and it's still unacceptably pro-coin toss.

Any NFL team can luck into an 80 yard TD pass on any given play. One DB trips and loses a step and the season is over.

I agree that the college system is far superior. (But that the starting on the 25 thing is way too 'sand lotty'. Should start on the 50).
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