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re: After Jan 1, 1979, Alabama, Southern Cal and ABC tried to convince the NCAA

Posted on 2/22/14 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 11:13 am to
Why did the AP still do it before the bowls again in 66 and 67?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 11:18 am to
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So, is it your argument that every coaches poll before 1974 is not legit, and every AP poll before 1965 is not legit?

A lot of them should be scrutinized at least.

AP
36 Minnesota no bowl
37 Pittsburgh no bowl
40 Minnesota no bowl
41 Minnesota no bowl
42 Ohio State no bowl
43 Notre Dame no bowl
44 Army no bowl
45 Army no bowl
46 Notre Dame no bowl
47 Notre Dame no bowl
48 Michigan no bowl
49 Notre Dame no bowl
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl
57 Auburn no bowl
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
74 Oklahoma no bowl

Coaches
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
54 UCLA no bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
65 Michigan State lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
70 Texas lost bowl
73 Alabama lost bowl
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 11:19 am to
Unpossible. Only Bama claims AP and coaches(UPI) polls when they shouldn't.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 11:20 am to
Especially 57 Auburn and 74 Oklahoma, they were banned from playing in a bowl ffs.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
So everyone that won a poll title, that lost their bowl game or didn't play one, before the 60's should have it taken away because it was changed in the 60's to include the bowl games? Even though there were only a few bowls in those days, I think 4 or so.

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A lot of them should be scrutinized at least.

AP
36 Minnesota no bowl
37 Pittsburgh no bowl
40 Minnesota no bowl
41 Minnesota no bowl
42 Ohio State no bowl
43 Notre Dame no bowl
44 Army no bowl
45 Army no bowl
46 Notre Dame no bowl
47 Notre Dame no bowl
48 Michigan no bowl
49 Notre Dame no bowl
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl
57 Auburn no bowl
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
74 Oklahoma no bowl

Coaches
50 Oklahoma lost bowl
51 Tennessee lost bowl
52 Michigan State no bowl
53 Maryland lost bowl
54 UCLA no bowl
56 Oklahoma no bowl
60 Minnesota lost bowl
64 Alabama lost bowl
65 Michigan State lost bowl
66 Notre Dame no bowl
70 Texas lost bowl
73 Alabama lost bowl

Posted by Korin
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37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:11 pm to
Who said that?
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Who said that?


quote:

So, is it your argument that every coaches poll before 1974 is not legit, and every AP poll before 1965 is not legit?
quote:

A lot of them should be scrutinized at least.



Maybe I misunderstood.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:30 pm to
There's no "maybe" about it.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 12:58 pm to
answer the question ... should every pre-73 upi title and every pre-64 title be taken away from teams that lost their bowl game or did not play in a bowl? ...

"yes" or "no" ...

if "yes", who is to be given these titles that were voted on, same as all other prebcs titles? ...
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 1:00 pm to
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There's no "maybe" about it.
OK, what's this about then?

quote:

A lot of them should be scrutinized at least.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

answer the question ... should every pre-73 upi title and every pre-64 title be taken away from teams that lost their bowl game or did not play in a bowl? ...

"yes" or "no" ...

if "yes", who is to be given these titles that were voted on, same as all other prebcs titles? ...

No.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/22/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

OK, what's this about then?

I'm putting them into context. No one said anything about them not counting or taking them away.
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