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re: A&M got the Bama treatment

Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:17 am to
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3763 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:17 am to
Yes. Without the three pick sixes, they could've easily won 23 to 20. Especially if Bama had continued they take a knee strategy on the last drive of the game inside the A&M 20.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:21 am to
So when Saban got up 28-20 in the 3rd quarter and A&M had just scored 14 unanswered points he decided it was in his best interest to stop scoring points on offense in favor of running the clock out.

Okay
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:24 am to
quote:

You seem confused. I'm saying you can't just selectively choose important plays from games, totally negate them from the game, and then assume the rest of the game would have been played as it was. I mean technically you can but you'd be an idiot.

To dumb it down even more I'm saying Bama would have beat the shite out of A&M regardless of the pick 6's happening or not
You seemed confused. All plays, big or not, are a result of execution. A&M didn't execute plays well enough and it resulted in turnovers for Bama. If a team out executes the opposition, 99.9% of the time they will win.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:27 am to
We will leave the moral victories to OM.

Aggies committed too many turnovers and lost. Time to move on.

Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:33 am to
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Yes. Without the three pick sixes, they could've easily won 23 to 20.


Another example of a fan removing plays from football games and assuming the rest of the game would have been the same. If there are no pick sixes Bama still gets possession of the ball after A&M is finished. How you people don't understand this is unbelievable.

If there is no pick 6 EVERYTHING is different. There is no punt return for a touchdown. So now the score is 23-14. Oh but wait Bama kneeled the ball inside the 10. They would have scored. Now the score is 30-14. Or maybe there was a punt return but on a different punt but then Kirk fumbled at the goal line giving Bama a safety. Now it's 32-14. See what I did there? The same thing you are doing. It's ridiculous. You people win. I quit
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:35 am to
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All plays, big or not, are a result of execution. A&M didn't execute plays well enough and it resulted in turnovers for Bama.


Holy shite. As I have been this entire time, I'm agreeing with you. I'm literally trying to explain what you are saying. For the second, and last time, I quit.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Not that I disagree but Ole Miss had a short field like 3 or 4 times that game so who can say they wouldnt have outgained you with 3-4 more possessions starting from their 20-30? Plus did Bama run 30 more plays than OM?


Can't say for sure, but they had 433 total O. 66 came on the prayer thrown into double coverage that bounced off a guy's helmet. Also, another 73 came on the pop pass at LOS when everything but "Swag's" shadow was past LOS. Those two plays accounted for 139 of OM's 433 yards, or 32%.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:41 am to
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Holy shite. As I have been this entire time, I'm agreeing with you. I'm literally trying to explain what you are saying. For the second, and last time, I quit.

So by not executing, you beat yourself
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:43 am to
About a third of his body was behind the LOS. And I hate both of you so I don't have a dog in this fight
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:46 am to
quote:

We will leave the moral victories to OM.


bullshite. You guys gotta win, or not lose by more than 5. I got a dime on you with 6 points.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:46 am to
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So when Saban got up 28-20 in the 3rd quarter and A&M had just scored 14 unanswered points he decided it was in his best interest to stop scoring points on offense in favor of running the clock out.


Not what I'm saying. A&M had scored those 14 points off a PR TD and after a blocked punt that gave you the ball in plus territory. I think Saban felt that mistakes (i.e. a blocked punt) would be necessary b/c the D was bottling up the A&M offense. Again, I'm just sharing my opinion with you on a message board, but I don't think Saban and staff ever felt victory was in double once they went up 28-6 unless Bama helped with mistakes.

Once it was 28-20 Bama then went down and kicked a FG making it a two score game again and they further felt assured that the D was going to do what was needed to win and didn't need to chance that with foolishness on O.

also, I think Kelly being out impacted their approach on O quite a bit as they didn't run up middle as much or as effectively as they did when he was in.

bottom line, no one felt A&M was winning that game at any point - included at 28-20 - once Bama got up 28-6.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:47 am to
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Yes. Without the three pick sixes, they could've easily won 23 to 20. Especially if Bama had continued they take a knee strategy on the last drive of the game inside the A&M 20.


And of course somehow they get 3 kickoffs right back to them after the non-pick 6's?
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:48 am to
Op still melting over a win.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

About a third of his body was behind the LOS.

Probably, but none of it was on the ground connecting him behind LOS when he released the ball (not saying it has to be, just an observation I had). The bigger issue was the no call on the lineman blocking 5 yards down field on that pass play while ball is still in QBs hands.


I can live with that play, though, until they change the rules (even with the lineman down field). This one is what had me thinking "this may not be our night".
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:59 am to
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Probably, but none of it was on the ground connecting him behind LOS when he released the ball (not saying it has to be, just an observation I had). The bigger issue was the no call on the lineman blocking 5 yards down field on that pass play while ball is still in QBs hands


You are 100% correct. The rule needs to be changed back to the NFL 1 yard rule. That way the official can easily tell if an OL is down field.
Posted by RmpTebow15
Member since Oct 2015
17 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:02 am to
Looked like Bama was by far the better team to me.. Derrick Henry ran the ball when he wanted and Bama made 2/3 of those picks into pick sixes.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:24 am to
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I'm concerned I was too subtle.


Remember who you are dealing with.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:28 am to
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Really, I mean the game was a fluke. 3 pick 6's? A&M could have won easily if they hadn't made those ridiculous mistakes. A&M clearly the better squad here, they just made some bad mistakes at home and Alabama was the benefactor.



I made the smart move of getting my bama co-workers on record in print about how they were the actual better team even after 5 turnovers. They tried at first, but after I just copied their own statements from OM and sent them to them, I haven't heard a peep. It's been nice.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30198 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:28 am to
Hey, Bama's special teams did damn near everything in their power to give the game to aTm and they just wouldn't take it.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:29 am to
Bama's defense won the game. Derrick Henry was impressive in the first quarter, running up 150 yards and getting 2 TDs. After that, he was not very productive.

Granted the Center went down and, yeah, 150 y in one quarter? frick the rest ofthe game. He deserves a break.

But my point is, Bama's defense was the key to victory. Not just because of the pic6's but because they executed and disrupted. They caused the turnovers with smart, effective pressure on KA.

Now watch. Some non-bama fan will completely take my comment out of context re Derrick Henry. I will let others guess which fan base would do such a thing on tRant.
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