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re: A&M and Arkansas both had 5-3 post season records ....
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:27 pm to therick711
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:27 pm to therick711
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That couldn't hit
You do realize that is only one facet of the game. The hit timely, they pitched well, and the played good enough defense to finish 3rd in the Pac with a top 30 RPI. Just because they're hitting wasn't all work does not mean it was a blessing like you keep saying. TCU isn't great hitting team either, but that didn't stop them from beating A&M and LSU.
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:32 pm to Farmer1906
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You do realize that is only one facet of the game. The hit timely, they pitched well, and the played good enough defense to finish 3rd in the Pac with a top 30 RPI. Just because they're hitting wasn't all work does not mean it was a blessing like you keep saying. TCU isn't great hitting team either, but that didn't stop them from beating A&M and LSU.
A team that is flawed offensively against a team that is complete. It also happens that Cal's flaw fits perfectly into the only tiny weakness aggy had, pitching. I can't understand it for you. No one had problems beating Cal this year (36-21).
If you think you got a juggernaut 3 seed because you got Cal, I don't know what to tell you. ETA: Are you seriously comparing TCU to Cal? That's laughable. TCU second in ERA in the nation, second in K/9, top 5 in just about every relevant pitching stat and at least 100 spots higher than Cal in just about all of the hitting categories like batting average. TCU 41st in runs scored, Cal tied for 121.
Nevermind, no sense in having this discussion.This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:42 pm to therick711
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A team that is flawed offensively against a team that is complete. It also happens that Cal's flaw fits perfectly into the only tiny weakness aggy had, pitching. I can't understand it for you. No one had problems beating Cal this year (36-21). If you think you got a juggernaut 3 seed because you got Cal, I don't know what to tell you.
A&M's weakness was defense more than anything. Our pitching outperformed our hitting easily in the postseason.
No one is saying Cal is all world. They were however, very obviously, a strong 3 seed. I would say they were about as good as UNC-W.
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ETA: Are you seriously comparing TCU to Cal? That's laughable. TCU second in ERA in the nation, second in K/9, top 5 in just about every relevant pitching stat and at least 100 spots higher than Cal in just about all of the hitting categories. Nevermind, no sense in having this discussion.
1. They're not 100 points higher than Cal in all hitting categories. Go look at OPS, you know the most useful offensive stat there is.
2. The comparison was obviously about still being good and having a weakness, which you clearly pointed out Cal sucked because they can;t hit. Well they hit every pit as good as TCU.
Please make all your flawed arguments then say its not point.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:43 pm to Farmer1906
The argument isn't flawed. It is amazing you'd try that gambit given that you seriously compared Cal to TCU saying that TCU isn't a great hitting team even though they are better than Cal in every measure and score over a run a game more than Cal and were a national seed. Your attempt to rebuff it was comical. Also, statistically, TCU is a pretty good hitting team. Cal is demonstrably not.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:51 pm to therick711
TCU
SLUG - .374
OBP - .369
OPS - .743
HR - 27
SO - 440 (6.9 per game)
GDP - 47 (.73 per)
CAL
SLUG - .406
OBP - .345
OPS - .751
HR - 45 (in 7 fewer games)
SO - 374 (6.5 per game)
GDP - 37 (.65 per)
Yup TCU is clearly a much, much better hitting team. #s don't lie.
SLUG - .374
OBP - .369
OPS - .743
HR - 27
SO - 440 (6.9 per game)
GDP - 47 (.73 per)
CAL
SLUG - .406
OBP - .345
OPS - .751
HR - 45 (in 7 fewer games)
SO - 374 (6.5 per game)
GDP - 37 (.65 per)
Yup TCU is clearly a much, much better hitting team. #s don't lie.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:53 pm to Farmer1906
Yet, no batting average or runs per game of which TCU scores over one more a game. Interesting cherry pick. GDP? Cal would have less given they have less hits. My goodness.
My goodness.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:54 pm to therick711
Batting Average? Holy shite is this 1991? No one looks at BA anymore. OBP and OPS take that into account.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:56 pm to Farmer1906
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OBP and OPS take that into account.
Actually, neither of them do.
In terms of homeruns, I'm guessing you've never seen where Cal plays its home games. Spoiler alert, the dimensions are favorable. Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:59 pm to therick711
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Actually, neither of them do.
And this is where i get off. You are either being deliberately obtuse or just that stupid.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:00 pm to Farmer1906
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And this is where i get off. You are either being deliberately obtuse or just that stupid.
I'm glad you're giving up because you're being a fricking idiot. TB/AB does not allow you to determine who gets more hits. So it doesn't take into account BA in a meaningful way. On base percentage is the same. I'm glad you've stopped talking because you are incredibly ignorant.
Also, digging a little deeper would explain why the slug number is what it is. Park adjusted numbers, I am confident, would favor TCU. In terms of xba, they are very similar except for homeruns.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:03 pm to therick711
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TB/AB does not allow you to determine who gets more hits.
Tell me what do you think TB/AB is.
Also WTF is
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On base average
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:05 pm to Farmer1906
I thought you were done? Obviously, you aren't. I see we're relying on malapropisms now to keep that rinky boat afloat. Carry on. Cal sucked at hitting and comparing them to TCU is fricking crazy and stupid.
/thread.
Carry on. Cal sucked at hitting and comparing them to TCU is fricking crazy and stupid. /thread.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:15 pm to scrooster
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Arkansas bolstered theirs with two losses in Omaha. Still ... two losses and they were neither close or heartbreaking.
Neither close??? Did you watch? Tied with Virginia going into the 8th 3-3...got down 5-3. Had 2 men on in the 8th with no outs to get back in it and couldn't push a run across. A double play and a K.
Against Miami...tied 3-3 in the 9th. We had bases loaded with 2 outs, couldn't score. Miami hit a walk off single to win 4-3 in the bottom of the 9th.
I would say those were close games and one was heartbreaking. It's not like we went to Omaha and got beat 15-3 and 10-1 or something like that. We had chances to win both games.
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