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re: A valuable lesson has been learned from the OM shenanigans
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:00 am to REBEL5 AC
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:00 am to REBEL5 AC
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LSU is a one decade program
LSU has at least one SEC championship in every decade but one beginning with the 1950s. No other team, but Alabama, has at least one championship for 6 of the past 7 decades.
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:38 am to Jack Daniel
Pretty sure everyone outside of Oxford knew they were cheating on national signing day. It was just a matter of time before it all collapsed.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:57 am to Jack Daniel
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An historically bad program cannot beat teams like LSU and Alabama without cheating. So when high profile recruits all of a suddenly want to go to Oxford, we will know there in no way that happens without illegal activity.
Everyone who has the money cheats. Everyone is just good at getting away with it now. Ole Miss would have gotten away with it too, but boosters of other programs were willing to pay Lindsay Miller more to snitch than we were to keep him quiet.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:13 am to Jack Daniel
Ole Miss fans just keep sticking their heads in the sand.
I've seen that umpteen times, yet, here we are once again with an OP and others who are too stupid to see a difference between the actual allegations made by the NCAA and "pay for play" or paying someone to sign and come to Ole Miss.
Just because you wish it doesn't make it true. It is a sad fact that each of you must slowly come to realize, and I know that it is difficult when you instead want so bad to believe it took paying players to get them to sign with Ole Miss.
1) 4 years of investigating and no evidence of any money paid to get Tunsil to sign.
2) No evidence of anything whatsoever with Nkemdiche.
3) No evidence of anything whatsoever with Treadwell.
No one can or will dispute 1, 2 or 3.
Now each of you may go ahead and respond by deflecting or changing the subject. Every post that does so will just confirm what we all know but most of you don't want to admit --
1, 2, and 3 are accurate and no matter how you try to explain it away:
Either:
A) Ole Miss did not have to pay the big three recruits to get them to sign with us; or
B) After four years of thorough investigating, it couldn't be proven.
Either option is not the result most of you haters were hoping for.
I've seen that umpteen times, yet, here we are once again with an OP and others who are too stupid to see a difference between the actual allegations made by the NCAA and "pay for play" or paying someone to sign and come to Ole Miss.
Just because you wish it doesn't make it true. It is a sad fact that each of you must slowly come to realize, and I know that it is difficult when you instead want so bad to believe it took paying players to get them to sign with Ole Miss.
1) 4 years of investigating and no evidence of any money paid to get Tunsil to sign.
2) No evidence of anything whatsoever with Nkemdiche.
3) No evidence of anything whatsoever with Treadwell.
No one can or will dispute 1, 2 or 3.
Now each of you may go ahead and respond by deflecting or changing the subject. Every post that does so will just confirm what we all know but most of you don't want to admit --
1, 2, and 3 are accurate and no matter how you try to explain it away:
Either:
A) Ole Miss did not have to pay the big three recruits to get them to sign with us; or
B) After four years of thorough investigating, it couldn't be proven.
Either option is not the result most of you haters were hoping for.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:16 am to Rebman
Is it true Tunsel committed without ever visiting Oxford?
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:25 am to Jack Daniel
He did have an official visit in late January of 2013. And even ole Step-dad didn't allege that Tunsil received a dime. Step-dad has however admitted that he (step-dad) received $800 from a booster a year and half later (August of 2014).
Official visit -- January 25th-27th, 2013
Official visit -- January 25th-27th, 2013
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 11:26 am
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:29 am to Rebman
The lesson is that you have to cheat within the bounds of good taste. Freeze got greedy.
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:30 am to Rebman
Keep in mind, I certainly can't say for sure that Tunsil didn't receive any money to sign with Ole Miss (although one would think that Tunsil's step-dad would have made that known to everyone if it had occurred).
What I can say with absolute certainty is that either (1) he didn't receive money to sign with us or (2) a four-year investigation and a step-dad who is out to bury us any way he can has been unable to prove it.
I would lean towards #1 because I believe the step-dad would have known if a true "pay to play" took place, but who really knows.
What I can say with absolute certainty is that either (1) he didn't receive money to sign with us or (2) a four-year investigation and a step-dad who is out to bury us any way he can has been unable to prove it.
I would lean towards #1 because I believe the step-dad would have known if a true "pay to play" took place, but who really knows.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:33 am to Rebman
Keep in mind, you and OM have no fricking idea what the NCAA has found. This ain't over for OM. This is only the beginning.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:35 am to Rebman
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Either: A) Ole Miss did not have to pay the big three recruits to get them to sign with us; or
B) After four years of thorough investigating, it couldn't be proven.
It's B but that doesn't mean anything. The greatest mobster ever Al Capone wasn't arrested for murdering people, he was arrested for tax fraud because that is what they could prove. They still made an example out of him on those trumped up charges, authority figures have a way of sticking it to people who are arrogant about breaking the rules.
If the NCAA felt y'all were trying to hide more even if y'all are successful at hiding that stuff just the act of doing so might get the same punishment. What y'all don't understand is the NCAA doesn't operate like a fair court of law. This is a kangaroo court, and the deck is stacked against you.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:43 am to cardboardboxer
We could get hit with a "we think we know what you are doing" punishment, but I think the NCAA would also have to be wondering if it was really true, why wouldn't Lindsey Miller be screaming it from the rooftops. Just doesn't add up to me, but we could get punished for something that they can't prove. But Ole Miss would never agree to that type of punishment for something unproven so to get that "unproven punishment" both the Committee on Infractions and the Appeals Committee would both have to go along with punishing us outside of the normal infractions matrix that the NCAA has. I honestly don't think they would do that, but I could be wrong.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 12:03 pm to Rebman
you Ole Miss fans need to take the blinders off! Your School came out the gate trying to give up 11 scholarships, and their praying the NCAA will except that. Me are you doesn't know what the NCAA has found, but it must be pretty bad if they want to self-imposed 11 scholarships. So you Ole Miss fans need to prepare your anuses
Posted on 5/28/16 at 12:39 pm to REBEL5 AC
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LSU is a one decade program
Better than a never decade program
Posted on 5/28/16 at 12:59 pm to RebelExpress38
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LSU has no chance of keeping up with Bama
Saban won't live forever. We saw Bama become mortal very quickly after the Bear walked away.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:20 pm to Jack Daniel
They did go over the top right away and make it easy to see . If the NCAA doesn't drop the hammer on them it will be interesting to see what other teams do. These smaller schools can't compete with the big schools in a bidding war.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:21 pm to misey94
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We saw Bama become mortal very quickly after the Bear walked away.
Bama controlled the LSU series for 15 years after Bear's death. They won another national championship ten years later. The narrative of the 80s and 90s being a dark period for Alabama is heavily exaggerated. Even in the program's worst decade in the modern era - 1997-2006 - the Tide had 3 ten win seasons and an SEC title. That would be considered a good run by LSU's historical standards.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:24 pm to RebelExpress38
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So it only costs 16k for ole miss to beat Bama and LSU? Sounds like a good deal
Add up the Ole Miss football budget from the begining of your history until 2016 (including the under the table stuff), and that's how much it costs to beat Bama 10 times.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:30 pm to RebelExpress38
There is a reason te big six are the big six. The Aggies with a good coach can compete with their money and pipeline. That is about it. Arky as well has an outside shot. The rest need help. Take Missouri. Missouri came when Uf and Tenn were down and Uga wasnt at premier level either. If Uf or Ut is as usual, no chance Mizzou is in an Sec Title game two years in a row.
The fact is simple
Bama, Lsu, Florida, Tenn, Georgia, Auburn are the ones who will continue to hang the Sec titles on their walls.
Aggies have the next best chance, then Arky.
The others..basically no shot outside of a miracle year.
The fact is simple
Bama, Lsu, Florida, Tenn, Georgia, Auburn are the ones who will continue to hang the Sec titles on their walls.
Aggies have the next best chance, then Arky.
The others..basically no shot outside of a miracle year.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:34 pm to Jack Daniel
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Is it true Tunsel committed without ever visiting Oxford?
Yes
Posted on 5/28/16 at 1:35 pm to UKWildcats
Ole miss has made shite coaching decision after shite coaching decision never should have let Tubbs go
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