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Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:59 pm to Mizz-SEC
It's hard for me to believe how ignorant Oklahoma is being. What on earth ties them so tightly to Texas that they're willing to commit suicide with the Longhorns? Unbelievable.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:08 pm to Team Vote
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Team Vote
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My brutha!
Until Nov. 15.
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We've been screwed! A little gimpy bowtied ******* bent us over and went in dry and DeLoss sat there and cheered him on like a certain QB is a San Antonio hotel room.
just isn't ever going to get old!!!
(much like my love for this thread) Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:11 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Turns out, the university press is no longer publishing the book, and why is a mystery. Charles Backus, press director, referred any questions to the university provost office. The provost spokesman, Chad Wootton, is out of the country and was unavailable for immediate comment on Tuesday.
It's a VERY simple answer. Politics.
Jim Abbott, the likely new Governor of Texas, is a t-sip, as is that count Wendy Davis should the unthinkable happen and "abortion barbie" wins the election.
The board of regents are trying to ensure that anything with their names in it regarding Loftin's book is not officially endorsed by the school.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:20 pm to Kentucker
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It's hard for me to believe how ignorant Oklahoma is being. What on earth ties them so tightly to Texas that they're willing to commit suicide with the Longhorns? Unbelievable.
I work with a big time OU fan. We have gotten into this conversation about the TLN and how Texas will be the downfall of the Big 12. This guy pretty much said "I'm not too worried about the future of the Big 12 and what Texas is doing. If we keep kicking their asses and we keep making big bowl games and get into the playoff and keep moving forward, OU will be just fine".
I guess that is a decent way of looking at it from a fan perspective (were you have no control anyway) although being very short-sighted. I dont think they realize how all the money the are missing out on a conference network is going to screw them in the long run. For instance with all the money the SEC schools are going to be getting from the SEC Network. Mississippi State, Vanderbilt and Kentucky might have better training/football facilities then OU in about 15-20 years. OU and Okie State should leave for the PAC 12 ASAP imo and let Texas suffer from their own stupidity.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Well then, the University of Missouri Press should publish it.
Missouri has as many reasons to see the truth gets told as Aggie does. Plus, Loftin is one of ours now.
Let freedom ring!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:23 pm to Jagd Tiger
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did they think a channel that focuses on only one team would be viable? Are they that arrogant
my Aubie friend,, I see you are new to the ways of the Bevo... yes, yes they are THAT arrogant@
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well they originally thought that they were going to be able to air Texas high school football games which would have probably caused it to be on nearly every cable/satellite system in Texas.
I kind of wonder if they will try to do that again now that the P5 have decided to essentially break off from the NCAA to make their own rules.
I'm not seeing why the remainder of the P5 would vote to hand Bevo that kind of advantage, unless they see a way to leverage that into all the conference networks.
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That was Mizzou's fault. Mizzou kinda forced them to do it to even consider staying and then bolted anyway.
So yay for Mizzou.
Cardboardboxer, I think the entire GOR/expanded-GOR was well fleshed out and kicked around even before you guys left, the reason it is associated w/ Mizzou is largely because Brady Deaton(mizzou chancellor at that time) was leading the committee that was essentially bound to trying to save the conference.
At the end of the day I think it is recognized that the only way the Bev12 had any real value as a product to a national broadcast co, was if a substantial GOR could be achieved, and that is why it eventually came into existence, even after we both left. Remember they had to scramble and add the likes of TCU and WVU just to have something resembling a big conference in numbers. Outside of TU and OU there just wasn't much there to sell.
It still figures that if Bevo along with possibly OU and 1 or 2 others leave the conference is undermined and may have to reform under a new charter which would free those leaving from having to pay out an actual penalty to remaining schools.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:29 pm to Bamatab
UT has plenty of money. Their goal now is to find the path of least resistance to the playoff. The Big 12 is a two team league which gives them a one game schedule. 8 teams in the league owe their entire existence in a power 5 conference to Texas, which gives UT immense power over them. The league cannot survive without Texas which is what they want. That is why UT stayed in a crumbling league.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:38 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Well then, the University of Missouri Press should publish it.
well you would think Mizzou could figure out how to handle some publications, but who knows.
in the book should be a couple of famous Pinkel quotes:
on teams leaving the B12:
"We all know where it starts. Mike Alden’s not the point man here. Dan Beebe is. "
and regarding the LHN:
“It’s a lack of common sense there to think that the network, the university network can coach or have high school games on their network.”
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UT has plenty of money. Their goal now is to find the path of least resistance to the playoff. The Big 12 is a two team league which gives them a one game schedule. 8 teams in the league owe their entire existence in a power 5 conference to Texas, which gives UT immense power over them. The league cannot survive without Texas which is what they want. That is why UT stayed in a crumbling league
Oh I completely agree, the entire B12-2+-whatever will vote as a block, and they will vote exactly how Austin tells them to vote.
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:49 pm to Monticello
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The Big 12 is a two team league
If it were true, they'd be in good shape. Unfortunately, for the only two teams that can be considered "national draws", Art Briles and Mike Gundy don't agree with that assessment.
Since the Longhorn Network launched:
-The Big 12 has had 3 different champions. One of whom had NEVER won an outright conference title and another who hadn't won one in almost 35 years. Those champions and co-champions, as Oklahoma technically was in 2012, went a combined 1-3 in their bowl games
-Texas hasn't finished a season with fewer than 4 losses
-Oklahoma hasn't finished a season with fewer than 2 losses
-No Big 12 school has finished with a top 10 recruiting class
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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-Texas hasn't finished a season with fewer than 4 losses
-Oklahoma hasn't finished a season with fewer than 2 losses
Those are some beautiful stats
As much as I dislike Baylor, their arse kicking of OU last season was so thoroughly enjoyable.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:00 pm to Team Vote
This thread makes me smile. I'm so, so glad we escaped that miserable excuse for a conference and it's arrogant overlord.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:02 pm to olemc999
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Mississippi State, Vanderbilt and Kentucky
One of these is not like the others.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:10 pm to Diggs
Yep 2 of the 3 have a National Championship to their name. 
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:11 pm to Diggs
What I believe really got all this mess rolling was when Texas notified us originally that they were in negotiations to take the bulk of the Texas/Oklahoma teams to the Pac12; without even consulting us first... Seriously. Think about that for a second. That's insane.
That's the first time we started seriously talking to the SEC and got either cold feet or felt the deal to stay was good enough.
Colorado saw the way the wind was blowing and bolted to the PAC, Nebraska the BIG10.
We stayed another year with promises of Beebee bucks from Nebraska's and Colorado's payout and then we bolted for the SEC when the highschool crap on the LHN got around.
The Longhorns shopped themselves around for a bit, but the neither the BIG10 or Pac wants the LHN. For ESPN it was a cheap way to keep the status quo mainly in check. There are many hands in the cookie jar with the LHN payout and Texas Athletics currently gets only about 9 million, reportedly.
Now, the entire Big12 is crippled when it comes to putting together a viable conference channel and the already regional viewership has shrunk.
I'm so glad to be out.
That's the first time we started seriously talking to the SEC and got either cold feet or felt the deal to stay was good enough.
Colorado saw the way the wind was blowing and bolted to the PAC, Nebraska the BIG10.
We stayed another year with promises of Beebee bucks from Nebraska's and Colorado's payout and then we bolted for the SEC when the highschool crap on the LHN got around.
The Longhorns shopped themselves around for a bit, but the neither the BIG10 or Pac wants the LHN. For ESPN it was a cheap way to keep the status quo mainly in check. There are many hands in the cookie jar with the LHN payout and Texas Athletics currently gets only about 9 million, reportedly.
Now, the entire Big12 is crippled when it comes to putting together a viable conference channel and the already regional viewership has shrunk.
I'm so glad to be out.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:14 pm to semotruman
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This thread makes me smile. I'm so, so glad we escaped that miserable excuse for a conference and it's arrogant overlord.
BOOM!
Posted on 8/7/14 at 7:18 pm to p_bubel
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Colorado saw the way the wind was blowing and bolted to the PAC, Nebraska the BIG10.
Colorado saw they were being left out in a proposed PAC 16.
Allegedly (for the shithead law student in our midst) it was Texas, Texas Tech, A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and one other slot open (because the California schools weren't so keen on a Baptist University being a part of their conference). Colorado dove in before their spot was taken by Baylor. Once the deal fell through, Utah jumped in as well.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:03 pm to semotruman
quote:You're safe now baby, big daddy not go let nobody hurt you
This thread makes me smile. I'm so, so glad we escaped that miserable excuse for a conference and it's arrogant overlord.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:11 pm to p_bubel
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when Texas notified us originally that they were in negotiations to take the bulk of the Texas/Oklahoma teams to the Pac12; without even consulting us first... Seriously. Think about that for a second. That's insane.
The straight up gall of this still stops me in my mental tracks years later.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:13 pm to MontyFranklyn
Does the SEC still have that deal with the Big XII to have conference runner-ups play in a New Orleans bowl? Or did the playoff put an end to that deal.
Personally, I'd prefer that the SEC not do anything to even remotely prop up that mess.
Personally, I'd prefer that the SEC not do anything to even remotely prop up that mess.
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