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re: A Forgotten issue of Ole Miss vs the NCAA...

Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:35 pm to
Viva, it appears from the outside looking in that the OM institution as a whole failed to control at least 3of their sports programs. Now they did act expeditiously in correcting the issues, just like any Administration would have done. But that doesn't change the fact that nearly 3 dozen infractions were found during the extensive investigation.

OM has 3 months to counter the allegations by the NCAA. Good luck going up against those bastards.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:55 pm to
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Was Friday's report a huge disappointment to you?


What report?


Posted by VivaZapata27
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:56 pm to
I'll take that as a yes.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:05 pm to
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So you believe that a gymnastics program could receive major penalties because a rouge equestrian coach racked up 25 rules violations?


That's not what happened. There are 3 sports, all with violations. That's the issue.


You would be right if it was A sport. You don't punish football for basketball. But you have football, basketball, and track and field.

Throw into that:

1- the great class of 2013. Flags raised.. Either the NCAA was investigating already, or they decided to at that point. If they were, as many suggested, then there's a MASSIVE issue.

2- Aug 2013.... NCAA interviews several players at different universities about their recruitment by Ole Miss.

3- Dec 2013, via information found, the NCAA launches a ULL investigation... one that Ole Miss had 2 sets of Attorneys at..

4- While still under investigation, more things come to light that are new.


That's a lack of control. Does that mean the NCAA will give you LOIC? No. But there is noway Ole Miss gets off. This isn't a phone call that was made one minute late into the dead period.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:06 pm to
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You have the logical thinking capabilities of a drunken slug.


Umm...I think you are referring to the person I was replying to. Otherwise please explain the logic failure. This should be interesting.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:06 pm to
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I'll take that as a yes.



Take it how you want.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 11:38 pm to
I like the way you speculate. Have you considered a gig at MSNBC? Rachel would eat you for lunch. Really.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:19 am to
Well Mathew, since I speculate:


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That's not what happened. There are 3 sports, all with violations. That's the issue.


Pro Ole Miss writer... "multiple violations across 3 sports"

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1- the great class of 2013. Flags raised.. Either the NCAA was investigating already, or they decided to at that point. If they were, as many suggested, then there's a MASSIVE issue.


See the link above. It listed the dates per your AD.

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2- Aug 2013.... NCAA interviews several players at different universities about their recruitment by Ole Miss.



NCAA interviews Chris Jones on Ole Miss recruitment

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3- Dec 2013, via information found, the NCAA launches a ULL investigation... one that Ole Miss had 2 sets of Attorneys at..



Dates listed here: "Since Dec 2013"


Also states:

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On Dec 16th 2013, enforcement staff and legal council for Ole Miss interviewed Saunders and (redacted name) concerning events that occurred while Saunders was employed by Ole Miss and (redacted name) was being recruited by Ole Miss.


If you want more.. just read. Also, Ole Miss reps (lawyers) and the enforcement staff interviewed Crager, the lady fixing the ACT tests. ULL was very specfic. (redacted name) and 4 ULL players. That redacted name is an ole miss player.


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4- While still under investigation, more things come to light that are new.


Do I really need to link to Tunsil?



Nothing about that is speculation.



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That's a lack of control.


This isn't either..

NCAA USC LOIC.. Involved football, Basketball, and tenis

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The violations span almost four years


Let's see.... 2010-2015 for Ole Miss is how long?

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The findings in this case include a lack of institutional control, impermissible inducements, extra benefits, exceeding coach staff limits, and unethical conduct by an assistant football coach.


It's not speculation. In fact, it's kind of worse because while under investigation, Ole Miss was caught again.


They may not issue a LOIC... but it's well within the history of the previous NCAA staff. The NEW staff is in place due to the Miami screw up. He's looking to clear the name of the NCAA.




Posted by Daviskenn
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:37 am to
Absolutely nothing gonna happen...

#TheNetwork
Posted by MButterfly
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:45 am to
Yeah... I wouldn't count on that, but yes the NCAA may even thank you for the ACT fraud. Not likely... but there is a chance...
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 12:01 pm to
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MButterfly

How many threads have you started about this?



You and your buddies at ED are much more concerned with this matter than myself and most of the OM fans here. I guess this is the only sign of hope that you've really seen since Freeze arrived. I guess all hope is not lost just yet. Keep holding on.

Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 2:35 pm to
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How many threads have you started about this?


I started the one about ULL and how Ole Miss would be in that response. Turns out I was right. That same thread I said your NOA would be in hand and by the end of the fisrt quarter of the year, we would know exactly what the NCAA had found.

Funny that I was right about that too. Then there is this thread.

2-5 threads on the whole process??


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You and your buddies at ED


Just finally read enough over this week to find out what ole miss fans were talking about.

Try again. Not everybody that looks at the situation and sees it for what it is =s ED people.


Posted by chasjay
Member since Mar 2013
422 posts
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:04 pm to
You're quoting yourself and then tying your own quotes to articles that you use as the speculative basis for your quotes. GTFO
Posted by FishFearMe
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Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 12:13 am to
Looks pretty serious. Doubt this is gonna be a slap on the wrist.
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