re: A coach leaving Clemson to go to Alabama is a lateral move

He wouldn't have made it past the first page on a BIG XII board without being hung upside down by his feet with his head in a toilet. Ya'll gettin' soft down there.

I can understood the appeal for a former player, or if just want more money.

But it still the same game and my view is Clemson is better location for recruiting. If Clemson wins the ACC most years it will also make the playoffs. Clemson has as nice of football facilities as Alabama. Clemson has won a title here before so it can be done.

I am surprised to see people act like it is crazy or trolling to be surprised ppl see Bama as a superior coaching job even disregarding the extra money.

FWIW "Better job" is an entirely relative term, but to disregard potential salary is an asinine thing to try and do. I realize that you don't have a job and/or said job probably pays minimum wage, but to most normal human beings there are a few major criteria that come into play when determining whether a position is the right one for you.

1) Salary
2) Potential to succeed
3) Leadership/Relationships with coworkers (ability to attract staff in the coaching world)
4) Quality of life

This is by no means an exhaustive list but would imagine if you polled the audience, some version of those would come up.

Let's think about this from a school to school comparison:
1) Salary. This part is obvious, Alabama has shown a propensity/willingness to pay more for coaches than Clemson. Budget is larger, alumni association with more support.

2) This one is a bit trickier to assess. Technically speaking, one *could* argue that Clemson has the easier path to a conference championship most years, however, given Alabama's recent dominance and ability to continue attracting top tier talent (and that NCAA football is unlike the NFL and dynasty programs are actually possible) it would be difficult to say they don't have a legitimate shot at making it to the playoffs every season. In this regard, it's probably best to look at past performance to measure... again this is not in Clemson's favor.

3) In the business world, this is easier to assess. From a coaching perspective, Alabama is seen as a destination place for assistant coaches at this point. Assistants at the program are quickly making their way up the ranks into OC/DC/HC positions. I will admit to not being intimately familiar with Clemson's coaching tree, but would say I'd be shocked if it was in the same ballpark.

4) This might be the one place where Clemson wins. There is a shitload of pressure to win at Alabama. Not to say there is no pressure at Clemson, but it would not be in the same realm. *But* top tier coaches typically are a different breed (save Urban Meyer?) largely living on and thriving in the pressure. (I say this fully aware that Mark Richt does not fit this mold, criminally underperforming in pressure situations.)

Ultimately, I don't really care here as I don't have a dog in the fight, but 8/10 for the effort here. You definitely got the Bammers a little rustled.

Alabama is the greater job becsuse:

The best 3 coaches Clemson has ever had....PLAYED at Alabama. .lol

HOWARD
FORD
DABO

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Alabama's campus is nicer then clemson's. Alabama facilities are top 3 nationally. Alabama's stadium is much bigger then clemson's

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lol at Alabama's campus is nicer. It is in flat area not near mountains or ocean. I street viewed it on Google maps and didn't looking appealing outside of a few areas.

How do you rank facilities? Obvious Clemson's facilities are good enough if we get Sammy Watkins, Deshuan Watson, other players recruited by Bama.

Clemson's stadium can hold 82,000. that seems big enough. bigger stadium means more traffic after the game to sit in. no thanks.