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re: A & M sinking fast. WR coach cost them two recruits

Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:40 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:40 am to
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I see you've adopted the "if our peers are good then we are good" approach to college football.


More like "if the bills are paid we get laid." I will let you work out the details.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:41 am to
All Aggy
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:42 am to
I don't follow recruiting that closely so I went and researched Tate Martell. He committed to Washington as an 8th grader! So an A&M coach is pissed about a kid de-committing and refers to loyalty, YET they recruited him and made an offer even though he was committed elsewhere?

Sounds kind of hypocritical to me!
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:42 am to
Idk how you can continue to pretend to be happy TAMU is paying Sumlin.
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:56 am to
My favorite part was the "texastough" hashtag from the coach. You've got to give Texans one thing, they're consistent with the BS chest thumping and self love. Please tell us all how great you are some more.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:57 am to
meh, if they dont have the chest we dont want em

amirite?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 9:59 am to
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Moorhead was right. We don't need those kids if they can't handle what he said. They can be someone else's problem.



I just read the whole deadspin article. The kids came across as brats to be honest. Nothing the coach said bothered me.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:00 am to
LOL
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:02 am to
Agree completely but at the end of the day TAMU has a negative perception right now. Sumlin seemingly has no control over his program.

Also blows my mind that high profile team's coaches feel the need to voice their opinions on twitter so often. I said the same when Bielema was blasting Wisconsin fans on twitter a few years back. Just, why? It quite literally can not do anything but harm you and you lose all ability to control the narrative.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:02 am to
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Fairness is an imaginary concept. It doesn't apply to football and it doesn't apply to life.

Agreed. Nothing about my post indicated any sense of fairness being required, just that it's awfully hypocritical to chastise kids for not remaining loyal when it is his job and duty to go get kids to come to his school oftentimes regardless of prior commitment. If a coach's signed contract doesn't constitute a real "commitment", why the hell should a teenager's word be considered one?

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All that matters is leverage, how much you do or do not have.

Interesting choice of words here. What leverage does a university have on a kid that hasn't signed a LOI? Hint: next to none if they're an elite recruit

Again, it wasn't the kid who went on a tirade about loyalty and kids being soft. It was your coach, and no matter whether it was an accurate portrayal or not, it was a dumb decision to put it out there.

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If any coaching staff ever made some sort of "honor code" about their offers it wouldn't signal moral strength, it would signal a lack of leverage. Kids pick up on that kind of beta shite and it wouldnt work in the favor of the program. Practically it's a nonstarter, as is the concept that commitments from recruits will mean more than they do in the current system.

That's an awful lot of words to essentially say that you agree with me that the coach's comments about loyalty are dumb, and I guess at the same time indicating that aTm has no leverage and is a beta program?

Put simply, a coach that is living in a world of double standards should probably recognize that the so called loyalty that he's upset that kids don't have, he has already demonstrated a lack thereof upon leaving his previous job, so probably should keep his mouth shut. There was no upside to the comments, so why make them?
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:03 am to


So about this.....
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:04 am to
You're going to make Daniel cry again
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:04 am to
fricking texags man
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:06 am to
yea that picture turned out to not be the best idea
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:08 am to
Posted earlier... gotta keep up. That's already been improved:
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Also blows my mind that high profile team's coaches feel the need to voice their opinions on twitter so often. I said the same when Bielema was blasting Wisconsin fans on twitter a few years back. Just, why? It quite literally can not do anything but harm you and you lose all ability to control the narrative.

So much of this... unless it's Rah Rah stuff or celebrating wins (games or on the recruiting trail), what value is Twitter adding for these guys. When you make 100s of thousands (or millions for head coaches) annually, Social Media is not your friend. It's not the place to go vent frustrations. Pay a therapist and move on. There is no upside...

I said this earlier, but ultimately it's not that what he said was that bad, simply that the scrutiny that it will come under makes him as well as the university look worse. It's just not bright.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35525 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:15 am to
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Bill Greene ?@BillBankGreene

Always love seeing the dude who is on his 4th job in 7 years lecture a 17-year old kid about loyalty. #PLEASE

9:50 AM - 5 May 2016
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:20 am to
Eh, these tweets or subtweets (whatever the frick that even is) didn't change anyone's mind about where they wanted to go.

What they did do was provide a convenient excuse to decommit.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:22 am to
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My favorite part was the "texastough" hashtag from the coach.

Moorehead's sensitive arse is from Colorado and played college ball in Illinois. Yet, he 'guards A&M football with his life.' Something is seriously wrong with the mental state of that institution and town.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 10:23 am to
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What they did do was provide a convenient excuse to decommit.


And a decidedly inconvenient national story about A&M's shitty coaching staff. It's not these decommits that I am worried about.
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