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re: #92 for USCe Takes a Ridiculous Dive

Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:30 am to
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I simply don't feel sorry for an offense that has to run a no huddle all game though.


Again, there is nothing wrong or cheap about the HUNH. It is well within the rules, and is effective if an offense has specialized in running it. Just because a team specializes in it and it's effective doesn't make it cheap. Would it make any damn sense if I said Bama's defense is cheap because it has to run a 3-4 all game and relies on getting to the QB and hurting him as much as possible within the rules? Are teams justified in engaging in dishonest, unsportsmanlike behavior just because they have trouble matching up with the 3-4?
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:30 am to
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Here's a challenge Auburn fans: Draft the rule that makes it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty to "fake" an injury. Explain the difference between a fake injury or fake cramps and a real injury so that refs can delineate between the two.


Here's my solution: If a defensive player is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, he is done for that series. If he is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, during the last 2 minutes of a half, he's done for the rest of the half. If a second player is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, during the last 2 minutes of a half, you play a man down.

You'd see an end to this shite real quick.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51837 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:31 am to
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I'm just waiting for the day when a DC makes the signal for someone to fake hurt, but the players get it mixed up as to who is supposed to go down and about 5 of them suddenly hit the deck with cramps.


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Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:31 am to
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but the players get it mixed up as to who is supposed to go down and about 5 of them suddenly hit the deck with cramps


grenade formation

I am all for competitive advantage on the field but faking injuries is fairly pussified...but its not illegal so frick it.

If AU needs a break, "tweek" a hammy Jake Holland.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38019 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:32 am to
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I'm just waiting for the day when a DC makes the signal for someone to fake hurt, but the players get it mixed up as to who is supposed to go down and about 5 of them suddenly hit the deck with cramps.


Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV3K_ML2UsI

Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:32 am to
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but the players get it mixed up as to who is supposed to go down and about 5 of them suddenly hit the deck with cramps


I've seen this before. It was either 3 or 4 players, and all of them hit the deck at the same time. It was funny and fricking pathetic all at the same time. Have some goddamn dignity and respect for the sport.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:33 am to
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that has to run a no huddle all game though.


Chooses to. They run an offense that is built on power, speed, misdirection, etc. It is designed to tire defenses out as a strategy and make it difficult to position themselves correctly. It is an offensive scheme just as any other offensive scheme used to play on a teams strengths and take advantage of your opponents weaknesses. So if other teams or fans don't like it, too frickin bad.

I don't think any team who employs a hurry up offense seeks sympathy. The fake injury ploy is just plain wrong.
Posted by BLyonsTiger
Sugar Land
Member since Dec 2010
364 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:41 am to
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Here's my solution: If a defensive player is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, he is done for that series. If he is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, during the last 2 minutes of a half, he's done for the rest of the half. If a second player is hurt, resulting in a stoppage of play, during the last 2 minutes of a half, you play a man down.

You'd see an end to this shite real quick.


And if two players were legitimately hurt, what then?
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:45 am to
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And if two players were legitimately hurt, what then?



I don't have all the answers, Curious George. Just spitballing.

You could tweak it and just make the second player sit out the rest of the half as well. Or you could make the second player sit out and drop the flag at that point for "delay of game."

Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:03 am to
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Ridiculous Dive




This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 11:05 am
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:03 am to
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I've said numerous times that I want to beat LSU as much as Bama, if not more. I started pulling for Auburn in '99, and I'm not from the state of Alabama, so LSU has been the West team to beat for Atlanta for the majority of my time. As far as that game goes, not sure what I'll do yet.


Just out of curiousity how does that exactly work? Who did you pull for before 99? What made you choose Auburn if your not from Alabama? Did you have relatives who went their or some kind of connection?

Sorry, not trying to be nosy, just genuinely interested how that works. For me, I've grown up in Louisiana my entire life, all my family pulled for LSU, and my uncle played for the Tigers in the 70's so there was no question where my allegiances went from day 1.

That's why I'm always interested and curious when somebody has a story different to how their fandom came to be. Doesn't make it any better or worse than mine or anybody elses, just different and unique which I think is always interesting and what makes it such an awesome sport.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40838 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:09 am to
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If you have to fake an injury to win a football game, you don't deserve to win.


+1
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2760 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:12 am to
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It is an offensive scheme just as any other offensive scheme


Snapping the ball when players are still trying to run to their side of the ball is not a scheme, it's cheap.

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So if other teams or fans don't like it, do something to disrupt it and slow it down.


FIFY



Faking an injury is no more cheating than holding and not getting caught, trapping a ball and pretending you caught it or laying on the ball until the ref makes you get off of it to run more seconds off the clock because you know your team can't get another 1st down against the defense.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:13 am to
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2760 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:16 am to
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bona fide


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Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:20 am to
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Snapping the ball when players are still trying to run to their side of the ball is not a scheme, it's cheap.


There is a 40 second play clock. You are allowed to snap the ball at any point, whether 1 second in or 39 seconds in, as long as the ball is marked ready for play. If you aren't going to get mad at a team and call it "cheap" for them to run the play clock to zero before snapping, you can't get mad at them for snapping it as fast as possible.

Neither are cheap. If your retarded arse players and coaches can't get set, that's their fault and a lack of preparation. It's not about manliness, it's about strategy.

This is as ridiculous as a spread team crying about you just lining up in 2 TE sets and running it down people's throats. "Wah, wah, they have to bully us with brute strength because they can't run as fast as we can or be as creative as we can."

Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:21 am to
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Snapping the ball when players are still trying to run to their side of the ball is not a scheme, it's cheap.


When have you ever seen offsides penalty against someone who couldn't get to their side of the ball before a snap? You haven't. So what are you really complaining about?

That it is too confusing for them? Well lets ban reverses, counters and fake field goals.

That it makes them too tired? We should shorten the game to 3 quarters.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52798 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:24 am to
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Snapping the ball when players are still trying to run to their side of the ball is not a scheme, it's cheap.


Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:24 am to
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There is a 40 second play clock. You are allowed to snap the ball at any point, whether 1 second in or 39 seconds in, as long as the ball is marked ready for play. If you aren't going to get mad at a team and call it "cheap" for them to run the play clock to zero before snapping, you can't get mad at them for snapping it as fast as possible.


It's flameances. He's just sayint cheap becuase auburn does it. Don't get bent out of shape, he's never had a thought that didn't start with 'how can i skew this to take a shot at auburn'
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 11:36 am to
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Snapping the ball when players are still trying to run to their side of the ball is not a scheme, it's cheap.


LOL....what a total idiot
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