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re: 8 weeks in, the run defenses LSU has faced
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:39 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:39 pm to narddogg81
LOL at the LSU fans implying they're the reason why the opposing run defenses are terrible. If 7 games have been played, you have way less of an impact on that ranking than you think, and it's going to become even less with each passing week.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:40 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:that is crazy. i've been watching football for a long time and don't recall anything like that. maybe nebraska in the 90's?
So LSU literally in one game shifted their opponents rush defensive ranking by nearly 17 spots or 13.3%
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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This will be the best oline any bama player will face during his collegiate career.
But they played OSU last year who ran for 280 on 40 carries with the same front 7
I will be trolling so hard after next Saturday if Fournette doesn't put up 200
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to jbond
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LOL at the LSU fans implying they're the reason why the opposing run defenses are terrible. If 7 games have been played, you have way less of an impact on that ranking than you think, and it's going to become even less with each passing week.
Lulz at you for being an idiot. The info is, literally, posted in this thread.
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ETA: The pertinent info since you're apparently too lazy to actually read through the thread.
"So LSU literally in one game shifted their opponents rush defensive ranking by nearly 17 spots or 13.3%. That is an an average for 7 teams. Hell, LSU cost Auburn alone 37 spots"
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:43 pm to bfniii
what's worse for bama is fla and wky sold out to stop fournette and lsu's passing game shined. oh and btw, fournette still had 150+.
imo, bama needs lsu special teams to go back to pre-wky performance and ref help. special teams played better against wky
imo, bama needs lsu special teams to go back to pre-wky performance and ref help. special teams played better against wky
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:45 pm to jbond
200 yards, in some instances 250+ will materially affect rush d stats
you know because it's a yardage based statistic
you know because it's a yardage based statistic
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:46 pm to Buckeye06
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But they played OSU last year who ran for 280 on 40 carries with the same front 7
Well, seeing as they lost, at least, 2 players from the front 7 last year, you're wrong.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to narddogg81
Now you see how badly playing Leonard Fournette can hurt a teams stats
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:48 pm to jbond
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LOL at the LSU fans implying they're the reason why the opposing run defenses are terrible. If 7 games have been played, you have way less of an impact on that ranking than you think, and it's going to become even less with each passing week.
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jbond
I bet you are feeling pretty stupid for posting this now that the actual data has been posted right? I'd expect an edit soon...that's why I copied this. Great post...spot on.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:49 pm to jbond
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LOL at the LSU fans implying they're the reason why the opposing run defenses are terrible. If 7 games have been played, you have way less of an impact on that ranking than you think, and it's going to become even less with each passing week.
There, there, Bamanoid.
I know simple math is tough for you. It is common sense to understand that a team that averages 300+ rushing yards per game, will negatively impact a team that allows only 200 rushing yards per game.
Hell there's only 1 friggin team in all of D1 that allows, on average, more than 300 yards rushing per game.
Do you understand?
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Well, Tennessee ran for 254 on Florida (4.98 ypc) and 132 against Alabama (3.38 ypc). So how good is Florida?
Wisconsin seems ok at 8th nationally in Run Defense (97.25 ypg), with Alabama being overwhelmingly most of the yards they've given up (238 yards), with Nebraska being next in line (196). Though, I'm sure it's all because Wisconsin hasn't played LSU yet. Without the Alabama game, Wisconsin's at 77 RYPG, ranking 4th.
Next would be Arkansas's #18 defense, where yes, Alabama was within earshot of their average. But then, I'm not saying Alabama's running offense is as good as LSU's.
After that is #25 Georgia, where Alabama was on par with Tennessee and South Carolina with highs in the running yards, so Georgia basically feasted on Missouri, Vandy and cupcakes.
Then #26 Ole Miss, where Alabama has the best day rushing against them so far, but that probably doesn't count because Alabama lost. With the Alabama game, they are at 121 rypg, without they are at 107 (and would be ranked 15th)
Hell, Tennessee's #63 is all over the place, having good days against Alabama, Oklahoma and Florida, but getting ran over by Arkansas, Georgia, and a FCS school.
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Alabama can be either good running, or totally average. It's almost like they have a problem with offensive identity!
Wisconsin seems ok at 8th nationally in Run Defense (97.25 ypg), with Alabama being overwhelmingly most of the yards they've given up (238 yards), with Nebraska being next in line (196). Though, I'm sure it's all because Wisconsin hasn't played LSU yet. Without the Alabama game, Wisconsin's at 77 RYPG, ranking 4th.
Next would be Arkansas's #18 defense, where yes, Alabama was within earshot of their average. But then, I'm not saying Alabama's running offense is as good as LSU's.
After that is #25 Georgia, where Alabama was on par with Tennessee and South Carolina with highs in the running yards, so Georgia basically feasted on Missouri, Vandy and cupcakes.
Then #26 Ole Miss, where Alabama has the best day rushing against them so far, but that probably doesn't count because Alabama lost. With the Alabama game, they are at 121 rypg, without they are at 107 (and would be ranked 15th)
Hell, Tennessee's #63 is all over the place, having good days against Alabama, Oklahoma and Florida, but getting ran over by Arkansas, Georgia, and a FCS school.
stats stats stats
Alabama can be either good running, or totally average. It's almost like they have a problem with offensive identity!
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:51 pm to narddogg81
Remove LF7's stats and see where they rank then.....
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:53 pm to DelU249
i'll also say henry is criminally underrated on this board, and he's every bit the beast fournette is
fournette is a more unique talent, but henry isn't some dime a dozen back either.
fournette is a more unique talent, but henry isn't some dime a dozen back either.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:53 pm to Tigerinthehollow
No, he fell apart at the cellular level after that hit
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:55 pm to jbond
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LOL at the LSU fans implying they're the reason why the opposing run defenses are terrible. If 7 games have been played, you have way less of an impact on that ranking than you think, and it's going to become even less with each passing week.
So you are implying that teams having played basically 2/3rds of their regular season stats is going to have minimal effect in the long run of a 12 game season?
Let's assume Auburn maintains it's average for the remainder of the regular season.
They are currently 63rd not counting the LSU game. If they gave up their average of 164.7 outside of the LSU game for the rest of their games, they'd still be ranked 92nd, or 28 spots worse.
Let's look at UF. 11th without LSU at 99.2 ypg. If they manage that for 11 games not including LSU and then add in the LSU game, they'd still give up 109.3 ypg and drop from #11 to #17. That's the effect of 1 LSU game on the best rush defense so far.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:55 pm to narddogg81
I will bet the bank that posting these stats will hurt feelings on the tRant.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:00 pm to fierysnowman
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Florida 21 at 116.6ydpg 816 total with LSU
Florida 13 at 100.8ydpg 605 total without LSU
That's the smallest ranking decrease we caused. All the others are probably around 20-30 places
Florida 21 at 116.6ydpg 816 total with Tennessee
Florida 7 at 93.6667 ydpg 562 total without Tennessee
Hmmm, that looks odd.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:01 pm to nc14
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I will bet the bank that posting these stats will hurt feelings on the tRant.
You're a gambling man, huh? Would you "bet the bank" that the average ranking of rushing offenses Bama has faced would hurt feelings too? I would....
Wisconsin - 89th
Middle Tennessee - 107th
Ole Miss - 63rd
LA Monroe - 124th
Georgia - 22nd
Arkansas - 48th
Texas A&M - 96th
Tennessee - 31st
Average - 73rd
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:13 pm to RB10
Well, Wisconsin would be 19 spots higher without facing Alabama.
Tennessee would be 14 spots higher, Ole Miss would be 20 spots higher, Arkansas would be 15, and A&M would be 25.
So...stats
Tennessee would be 14 spots higher, Ole Miss would be 20 spots higher, Arkansas would be 15, and A&M would be 25.
So...stats
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