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re: 2010 Auburn took away all fear of the NCAA

Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
3368 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:31 am to
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Actually the fear of the NCAA was taken away when Bama lawyered up and said "f*** you" to the NCAA during the multiple smoking fires early in Saban's tenure. You may remember the book scandal, Julio & Ingram's new "boat buddy", the "hand-delivered with no stamp" C&D letter to the T-Town menswear guy, the Trent Richardson house sitting gig, and the disappearing car after a hit-and-run...good times. They proved that the NCAA can do virtually nothing when you lawyer up and obfuscate and deny, deny, deny.



You left out DJ Fluker.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53465 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:45 am to
Combine that with miami and I think you are correct. Even when the NCAA was publicly saying they were revamping process, Changing how they handled cases, and placing a new top dog that has a legal background, people still did not take them seriously.

Even here... they still don't despite the major slams on coaches and schools.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:46 am to
Melt Year 6
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:48 am to
All evidence against AU is listed below:









Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:56 am to
No, the NCAA fricked up Miami by basically bribing witnesses when Shapiro handed them that case on a silver platter.
All that happened with Cam Newton is they discovered a loophole that a Miss State booster tried to exploit and they closed it. They investigated every aspect of the Newton's finances (church included) and found nothing.
If the same thing happened tomorrow with JF3, he'd be ineligible because the loophole has now been closed.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:05 am to


Cam sure was during that presser.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
4770 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:05 am to
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Scam Newton


OK Harvey Updyke.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:19 am to
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BCBAMA


Funny thing is we did it in response to the blatant rampant and unpunished illegal recruiting methods saban brought to bama.

quote:

ecruiting is back to being like the Wild, Wild West; full of hired guns.


You are right about this but I'm not sure why you're complaining about it. You're school is the best at it and it's led to quite a nice run of success.

Also, 28-27 dwi gfy ead diaf kma yag lmb fmb smd
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:22 am
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8177 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:22 am to
This whole Ole Miss debacle has unleashed a flood of trolls the likes of which we haven't seen in a while.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
I could have never imagined how much joy a single season good bring to me. Scam Newton... It never gets old. #Innocenceisthebestdefense
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53465 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:55 pm to
No, I'm right. With the mistakes of those 2 cases, the NCAA revamped. That's a fact.


Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11090 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:12 pm to
quote:


Auburn did not take a Plea Bargain when the story first came out, which would have derailed their Championship run. It still kills the Bammers to this day


Hell yes it does. And I f****** love it
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 8:12 pm to
What mistakes were made in the Cecil Newton case? They closed the relative loophole and that was all. There was not one other shred of evidence. Nothing at all like Miami where a booster provided receipts and pictures.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 8:19 pm to
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Just helps prove that Auburn can't win without cheating.



True. But they'll have good year this year with expectations low. I'm not sure they'll ever be a team that wins consistently though, because they always fold under high expectations. Dye was the most consistent winning coach they ever had.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 8:32 pm to
Tuberville was pretty consistent with one peak in 2004 and a valley in his last season.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 9:56 pm to
Tuberville was a very good coach forAuburn too, yes. If Saban had not been at LSU, Tuberville would have at least gotten probably two more West titles and possibly two more SEC titles.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11448 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:21 pm to
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happened and whether it was at MSU or AU is irrelevant. The NCAA did the sweep under the rug job like I've never seen. Never saw an investigation take ONLY 3 days either. I guess we'll have to wait until Mullen's book where he told


I've been saying for years an Auburn booster paid Newton, but to say the NCAA spent 3 days in Auburn is beyond absurd. They spent a year investigating us. I have no idea where you came up with three days.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 10:24 pm to
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I've been saying for years an Auburn booster paid Newton

No more than any decent major college player.
Posted by Woodrow Wilson
Member since Feb 2014
288 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:28 am to
Let’s just say what most people think about the University of Alabama. Its football pursuits justify its identity with an uneducated backward white population and a symbolic link to the Lost Cause they hold so dear. Much in the same way as D.W. Griffith’s movie The Birth of a Nation encouraged the worst elements of southern society a hundred years ago; Bama football still encourages a similar backward behavior from a large segment of its fan base today. The Crimson Tide football team is an outlet for their lunatic fringe fans and gives them a venue to be recognized.
Bama fans overestimate the “esteem” of being the last college football factory and unwittingly rob themselves of the very reverence they crave by their boorish and obsessive behavior. They defend the indefensible and deny the undeniable. Their unhealthy emotional stake in Bama football substitutes for their own lack of personal acknowledgement and respect.

The question is: has Chronic Encephalopathy (CTE) not only affected ex-football players but also metaphorically speaking an entire university and its fan base? These other football victims are driven by extreme emotion and delusions to commit unconscionable often violent actions (Harvey Updyke and others). Even Nick Saban contributes to the lunacy by comparing losing a football game to the Pearl Harbor and 911 tragedies when thousands of Americans lost their lives.

Similar to the victims of CTE, the University of Alabama’s misplaced priorities of gold-plated football fluff over economic substance harms the state’s citizens with the false bravado of football. History reveals that the holy crusade of Bama football acts as an impediment to social and economic progress. For instance the University of Alabama administration allows white-only sororities to continue their policy of banning African-American females from membership. Ironic that most of the precocious Bama “student athletes” are African-American but their daughters and sisters can be excluded from university sororities.

It is well known that when a university simply reflects the attitudes of its football fans it is no longer a university in the true meaning of the word. Football has stalled the University of Alabama’s transformation into a modern university with intellectual, aesthetic or humanistic concerns. The reality is that the NCAA would actually do the University of Alabama a favor by handing down the Death Penalty for its football team. Then perhaps finally its faculty, alumni and students might appreciate the scholarship and learning that mark a university with intellectual fiber and integrity.
Until then “roll tide” is the shameful apology for those either naive or without individual self-respect.
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