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re: 14 team SEC is unsustainable. SEC Needs to get to 16 now.

Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by BoogerSykes
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1413 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:49 pm to
I would say add VT and Clemson, Florida would never allow FSU into the mix.....man $50 Million is a step buyout to leave the ACC though.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:51 pm to
I think Clemson just disqualified themselves from consideration.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:57 pm to
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at you aggies! Does aTm even get a vote? your guidelines. Do you think that everyone doesn't see your motives for NOT wanting another school west of the Mississippi? Keep trying...


It is not our fault the rules favor us.

Makes us feel like a Texas or Bama for once in our lives....
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:42 pm to
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I would say add VT and Clemson, Florida would never allow FSU into the mix.....man $50 Million is a step buyout to leave the ACC though.
after maryland leaves (officially) and the $50 million buyout is thrown out in court (which will probably happen) the ACC will implode the very next day
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36114 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:13 pm to
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The NCAA isn't changing the conference championship rule, especially if the SEC is the only conference requesting it. If you want to play a conference championship game, you must have two divisions that play a round robin within their divisions. Absent that, you don't get to have a conference championship game.



Don't be so sure.

1) The SEC was the first to push for and get the NCAA to accept a conference championship game as an extra game after teh season - prior to 1992? Didn't exist.
2) Other major conferences (big 10 esp) are looking at mega-conferences options which would also profit from a two round conference playoff system.
3) Expanding to 16 teams (even with 9 conference games) is not much of an answer when your rotation through the opposite division will take 14 years to complete (with one fixed opp division opponent and one rotating home and away).
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 8:14 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36114 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:19 pm to
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SEC N: Tennessee (Bama, Georgia) Vanderbilt (MSU, Ole Miss) Kentucky (Ole Miss, MSU) Va Tech (Texas A&M, USC) SEC W: LSU (Bama, UF) Texas A&M (Va Tech, Missouri) Arkansas (Missouri, NC State) Missouri (Arkansas, Texas A&M) SEC E: Florida (LSU, Auburn) Georgia (Auburn, Tennessee) South Carolina (NC State, Va Tech) NC State (USC, Arkansas) SEC S: Alabama (Tenn, LSU) Auburn (UGA, UF) MSU (Vanderbilt, Kentucky) Ole Miss (LSU, Vanderbilt)


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Division One:
South Carolina (Florida)
Tennessee (Alabama)
UNC (Vanderbilt)
VT (A&M)

Division Two:
Florida (South Carolina)
Georgia (Auburn)
Kentucky (Mizzou)
Vanderbilt (UNC)

Division Three:
A&M (VT)
Arkansas (Mississippi State)
LSU (Ole Miss)
Mizzou (Kentucky)

Division Four:
Alabama (Tennessee)
Auburn (Georgia)
Mississippi State (Arkansas)
Ole Miss (LSU)



These suggestions are bad because they don't split up the weaker programs (Ole Miss, MSU, KY, Vandy) into four different divisions.

Ole Miss belongs as the scrub in LSU's division - it balances things out and maintains the closest thing to a SEC rivalry LSU has

Vanderbilt belongs in Tenn's division (which presently lacks a weaker sister school)

Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:25 pm to
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Don't be so sure. 1) The SEC was the first to push for and get the NCAA to accept a conference championship game as an extra game after teh season - prior to 1992? Didn't exist.
Dead arse wrong, like so many things on this thread.

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The conference championship game owes its existence to a NCAA rule that had been on the books for years but was apparently not discovered by the major football powers until the early 1990s. This rule, adopted for the benefit of a conference in the NCAA’s lower division, said that if a conference had 12 members, it could subdivide into two divisions, playing a round-robin schedule, with the division winners meeting in a championship game. This championship would not count towards the NCAA’s limit on regular season games (then 11, now 12) nor would it affect bowl eligibility. In effect it was a “free” game that no major conference had ever bothered to stage.


NCAA conference championship game history

If some of you geniuses hypothesizing about pods would read this, you might understand why you can't do what your proposing.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:29 pm to
I'm all for the SEC being a trailblazer league, but this conference change stuff has gotten beyond retarded. There's nothing simple or elegant about anything that has happened conference-wise in the past two years.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:30 pm to
North Carolina and TCU.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10336 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:40 pm to
UNC and UVA. Both are solid hoops and baseball schools--we don't need anymore football powerhouses, both are AAU members and in growing TV markets.
Plus, our model is the U of ___, not Tech or State (except for Moo State)
North: NC, VA, KY, Vandy
East: SC, GA, FL, TN
South: AL, Aub, MS, MSU
West: LSU, A&M, Arky, MO
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 10:45 pm
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