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re: People who want Anderson fired after 1 season

Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:14 pm to
Fair enough, Jim.


But go ahead and bookmark my prediction for future reference.
Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Wins show a team is improving. Wins keep fans engaged and the cash coming in to fund the program. Wins keep us from being a dumpster fire future coaches want to avoid.


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once you hire a bad coach, you cannot fire him after the 1st year without doing further damage to the program


Well said
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:02 pm to
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We may be saying the same thing when you say "big," just to be clear. Gant, JW3 and Rosburg could be a serviceable frontcourt with rotations, but we need another body there.


The only one I think fits the bill is J3. What I think we need is someone who is going to garner attention when they catch the ball down low. Someone that teams may sag back on. He doesn't have to be 7' tall, but he has to be effective with his back to the basket so that he can toss it back outside to the scorers we need like you said.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:02 pm to
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But go ahead and bookmark my prediction for future reference.


Okay. From your lips to God's ears, I hope it happens.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:51 pm to
God speaks to me
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:54 pm to
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God speaks to me


And you're sure that's not the tumor talking?

Are you perhaps at Evangel University? I hear they're in touch with God, too.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Stlweir
St Louis
Member since Nov 2013
239 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:20 pm to
A coach is only as good as his players.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:29 pm to
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A coach is only as good as his players.


Disagree. A good coach turns his team into a sum greater than the parts of the whole.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5890 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:48 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:44 pm to

not a good comparison, Pinkel had plenty of time to get something going by 2012, and had a bad year(followed by another bad year), with his jumbo-dui issue and poor season going out of the 12. As far as firing him after 2001, it depends, did we replace him with Nick Saban? In that case it would have been the right move, does anyone have confidence in Alden making that "right" move?


Anderson and hoops is a different ball of wax for the most part. A coach K/knight might have a few more wins with this same club at this point, but really, so what? Its a project year, and first year and KA has a system that works as far as he's concerned and as far as any of us know, he is right. He's done as much at the previous level as Pinkel had done, so yea, that comparison is at least a little accurate.

Who knows, maybe even Alden can't screw up 4 basketball hires in a row, time will tell.


Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:15 pm to
I am completely convinced that KA orchestrated this year and all but guaranteed the outcome. All for a bigger picture. At least that is what I'm holding out hope for. Then I pull my head out of the sky and say no, we're just not that good.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 3:07 pm to
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A coach is only as good as his players


There's a lot more to basketball than just talent that a coach controls. Coaches can't change players innate talent, but they can teach players to execute basics, play in a disciplined manner and reduce mental mistakes as a season progresses.

Once again, I don't think we can fire Anderson after only one season. I'm simply pointing out I don't see evidence so far of a coach that can teach and mold players successfully at the major college level. He'll have at least two years and perhaps three to prove he can recruit and teach at a big-boy level. I'm looking for progressive, not sudden, growth. If he can do that, he'll be retained. I just doubt he's capable, but as I've said. I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 3:18 pm to
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He's done as much at the previous level as Pinkel had done, so yea, that comparison is at least a little accurate


But that's the thing, Jagd. Anderson hasn't. Pinkel was a success in Division 1 football at a non-P5 major college Toledo. A more fair comparison would be if Anderson had been successful at a mid-major basketball school. But Anderson never had one of those jobs.

Has anyone speculated why Anderson never got a mid-major job if he was a good coach in Division 2?
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 3:19 pm
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 3:38 pm to
Anderson made it to the final four 4 of his 12 seasons. It's impressive with how bad They were when he took over.
He may not be successful here but it won't be because he's not a good coach.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Has anyone speculated why Anderson never got a mid-major job if he was a good coach in Division 2?


He turned down a few MVC level jobs. He was really happy at CMSU and they paid him well. I think he took the Mizzou job more as a favor to Mizzou than to advance his career.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:13 pm to
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He was really happy at CMSU and they paid him well. I think he took the Mizzou job more as a favor to Mizzou than to advance his career.


I trust he's donating the difference in salary to an orphanage.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:31 pm to

1 trophy in 10 years in a bowling green-toledo conference?

Please, plenty of coaches have done that and gone on to far more than Pinkel has done. At least Anderson went to the top and won it all in the DivII.

I'd like to hire the next coach K but I don't know who that is. Obviously neither does Alden.

At least KA won't screw the program over on the way out the door the way the other Alden hires have. In the meantime if Anderson happens to win and if he won the conference it would be more than Pinkel has done in 15 years. So yes, some of you really need to stfu about Coach KA.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:20 pm to
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I think he took the Mizzou job more as a favor to Mizzou


Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:23 pm to
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you really need to stfu


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:52 pm to
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So yes, some of you really need to stfu about Coach KA.


I'm right behind you.
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