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re: Someone convince me we make it back next year

Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:36 am to
Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
3059 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:36 am to
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The guys over at BOL seem pretty confident in Eddie Jackson making a significant jump next year like Cyrus did.


Dude come on
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:29 am to
We have to return to power football to protect the defense,

Speeding up our offense will only hurt our defense.

Lets go back to mauling people with our O-Line.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:17 am to
quote:

He'll either get it together or be invisible on the bench watching the other RBs
Based on what? Even with Yeldon partly injured, Jones still couldn't buy a carry unless it was a blowout.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21671 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:44 am to
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People said the same thing about Cyrus Jones



And Milliner, and pretty much every young DB we've ever had.

People are, largely, stupid.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move to safety or get passed up by some of the younger guys. But, that's a testament to the talent coming in at CB, not a knock on EJ.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52647 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:57 am to
Yeah people don't learn. I guess that's human nature. I couldn't convince anyone last year that we would be okay with Blake Sims as our QB, and no one is going to convince these chicken littles that we will be okay yet again next season. Whatever.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 7:21 am to
I've got no doubt Eddie can turn it around
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24101 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:51 am to
Eddie sucked this year. But he had obviously not recovered from his injury. Cyrus was okay. But he wouldn't have started in our previous secondaries.

We either need Eddie to recover, or let these five star, track stars loose.

Beyond secondary issues, I don't think we have a linebacker who can play coverage. If Reuben is the man in the middle, we might be screwed. He's pure run coverage, atm. I'd love to see him excel (so that history will show that the flip of Rueben Foster), but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:54 am to
Did Christian Miller RS? He seems like our next Mosley
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:07 am to
While we only have 2 starters returning on offense, I'm more concerned about our defense...we have the talent but I really think we need to either change, or at least significantly tweak, our scheme. I think until we do that, we'll continue to struggle against spread teams. While we have all that talent on D, it takes that talent lots of time to learn the defense and see significant playing time on the field...think we need to both simplify and maybe try something unconventional on that side of the ball...
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6788 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:25 am to
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we have the talent but I really think we need to either change, or at least significantly tweak, our scheme.


When we return to having that 2 gap run stopper in the middle (Cody, Dareus) to free up our lb's and at least one shut-down cb our defense will return to elite form against any offense. Maybe the Taylor kid will provide us that physical middle man. I think there is enough talent already there. Just need to put the right puzzle pieces together.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:40 am to
It's been 2 consecutive yrs that Bama hasn't played in the NC game. Only happened once before under Saban.. 2007 and 2008. Next yr's the 'Ship.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:59 am to
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When we return to having that 2 gap run stopper in the middle (Cody, Dareus) to free up our lb's and at least one shut-down cb our defense will return to elite form against any offense. Maybe the Taylor kid will provide us that physical middle man. I think there is enough talent already there. Just need to put the right puzzle pieces together.

Hope you're right...but, if our D is predicated on having that 2 gap run stopper in the middle and a shutdown CB, is our defensive scheme too rigid to adapt/tweak when we don't have those assets? Not trying to be negative but the past couple of years have finally convinced me that we have significant issues with the spread (or at least some versions of it)...and since we would appear to have a lot of talent on D, could it be more of a problem with scheme as opposed to personnel?
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:00 am to
Eddie Jackson healthy, most of the front 7 returning (which is scary), Saban playing for revenge, Coker has had a year to learn the system and has been practicing with the #2 receivers who will start this year (develop chemistry), and Alabama returns King Henry, the Drake, Tyren Jones, Tenpenny (possibly), and adds Bo and Harris.

Also, JK fricking Scott
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:01 am to
Yes
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Hope you're right...but, if our D is predicated on having that 2 gap run stopper in the middle and a shutdown CB, is our defensive scheme too rigid to adapt/tweak when we don't have those assets? Not trying to be negative but the past couple of years have finally convinced me that we have significant issues with the spread (or at least some versions of it)...and since we would appear to have a lot of talent on D, could it be more of a problem with scheme as opposed to personnel?


It's amazing how we can be pretty successful on offense with a qb who will probably not get drafted, a rb who will probably be picked up in the 3rd-4th round, two WRs that will go undrafted, and one WR that will go in the first round. Yet, on defense we seem to require there to be first round material at corners and safety in order to be successful.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:05 am to
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Yet, on defense we seem to require there to be first round material at corners and safety in order to be successful.


That's a good point and it concerns me as well.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6788 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Not trying to be negative but the past couple of years have finally convinced me that we have significant issues with the spread


But if you think about it,the last couple of years, not having that big middle gap stopper we are pretty much running a 4-3. If OL can block DL 1 on 1 it gives the qb a better option to give or run. We need to get back to making them have 5 block 3. Gives the D a much better chance of rushing off the edge (Arenas/Anders). Also would keep the center/guard from getting to the next level on our lb's.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52647 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:33 am to
I don't think the middle of our defense was a problem this year. We were dominant against the run all year until we ran into the buzz saw that is Cardale Jones and Ezekial Elliot.

I've said it before, but our defense is great on every down except third down. Guys, for whatever reason, become wide open against our secondary on third downs, and we no safety valve for a scrambling qb on third downs. Fix third downs, fix the defense's flaws.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:51 am to
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Fix third downs, fix the defense's flaws.


Yep. Its not just that teams get a new set of downs, its the momentum they get when they convert. Its killer. At this point, it really is in our head because we were giving up these third and longs to teams that had less talent than us. Teams could literally take a knee on first and second downs.

Fix the third down issue on defense, fix the three & out issue on offense, and we're back in the playoff next year.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:16 am to
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Eddie tore his ACl in fricking April! Started 4 games in 13 showed some streaks of greatness, showed some youth as well. Got hurt and never really got back into the lineup.
My major concern with him is that the injury he sustained has decreased his speed. That is why I think safety might be more appropriate. If he regains all of his speed, then I would love to have him back at CB, but that certainly wasn't the case by the Sugar Bowl.
quote:

A full off season to train and practice while healthy could be what transforms him to the best we have had here.
I certainly hope so.
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