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re: Population of the entire world. When does it pop?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:32 am to Old Sarge
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:32 am to Old Sarge
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China will decide it needs all of Eastern Russia. And it WILL take it. Russia will try to resist and fail.
That could become a real scenario this century. No one in the West likes Russia because of Putin and China gets hungrier every day for more resources. Eastern Russia is the natural gas capital of the earth.
China could take Eastern Russia in a week or less.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:05 am to Kentucker
Do any of you think we'll ever reach a point where real population control is accepted?
i'm talking limits on reproduction-vasectomy/hysterectomy after a certain number of children?
i'm talking limits on reproduction-vasectomy/hysterectomy after a certain number of children?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:25 am to PrivatePublic
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Mother Nature has various forms of correction up her sleeve:
- increase in super diseases
- increase in homosexuality
- increase the difficulty of raising children through behavioral expression and decrease our proclivity to procreate
- increase sterility
- etc
So, War, Mother Nature, birth control (forced and unforced), genetic abnormalities such as gheyness, socioeconomic factors, etc., will prevent the earth from ever becoming overpopulated?
Yet ... the world keeps paying people to breed. Keeps thwarting mother nature's attempt to thin the heard. Keeps preventing Darwinism from kicking-in where our own species is concerned. Keeps finding new ways to keep people alive, longer. Keeps looking for ways to mass produce people in test tubes - screw the old way of doing it - pardon the pun.
Lemme tell ya something.
Humans will find a way to frick this up.
Think about it.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:30 am to PrivatePublic
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- increase in homosexualit
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:36 am to cas4t
What's funny about that? It's been shown in experiments with rats that overpopulation leads to an increase in homosexual traits.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:46 am to AUjim
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Do any of you think we'll ever reach a point where real population control is accepted? i'm talking limits on reproduction-vasectomy/hysterectomy after a certain number of children?
At some point, population control won't be optional. It'll will happen either deliberately or naturally. Populations of all species crash when demand exceeds supply.
As a species we're not smart enough yet (meaning we don't use a collective intelligence) to see what's coming. We still associate growth in numbers with success. We associate success of the individual with progress rather than improvement of the species as a whole.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:48 am to scrooster
By 2050, the worlds population will begin naturally declining.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:49 am to PrivatePublic
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What's funny about that? It's been shown in experiments with rats that overpopulation leads to an increase in homosexual traits.
Because homosexuality occurs at a certain rate, when the general population increases, the number of gays increases accordingly. At least this is how it works with people.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:52 am to PrivatePublic
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What's funny about that? It's been shown in experiments with rats that overpopulation leads to an increase in homosexual traits.
Oh wow
I didn't know this
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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By 2050, the worlds population will begin naturally declining.
This is your verbatim, rote post every time population is the subject of a thread.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If by naturally you mean war, disease, and starvation you might be right
By 2050, the worlds population will begin naturally declining.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:59 am to MIZ_COU
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If by naturally you mean war, disease, and starvation you might be right
Nope.. LINK
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And then it will fall.
This is a counterintuitive notion in the United States, where we’ve heard often and loudly that world population growth is a perilous and perhaps unavoidable threat to our future as a species. But population decline is a very familiar concept in the rest of the developed world, where fertility has long since fallen far below the 2.1 live births per woman required to maintain population equilibrium. In Germany, the birthrate has sunk to just 1.36, worse even than its low-fertility neighbors Spain (1.48) and Italy (1.4). The way things are going, Western Europe as a whole will most likely shrink from 460 million to just 350 million by the end of the century. That’s not so bad compared with Russia and China, each of whose populations could fall by half. As you may not be surprised to learn, the Germans have coined a polysyllabic word for this quandary: Schrumpf-Gesellschaft, or “shrinking society.”
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Sanyal said that fertility rates were well below replacement level in many developed countries, with Germany and Japan having TFRs of 1.4. But levels were also low in countries like South Korea, where TFR had fallen from 5 in the 1950s to 1.3 today, and Brazil, where TFR had dropped from 6.2 in the 1950s to 1.8 today.
"Given the above trends, we feel that the world's overall fertility rate will fall to replacement rate by 2025. In other words, reproductively speaking, our species will no longer be expanding – a major turning point in history," he said.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:01 pm to Kentucker
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This is your verbatim, rote post every time population is the subject of a thread.
Yes. Because it's accurate and people still believe the fallacy of unsustainable population growth.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nope.. LINK
About the clown author of your first link:
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Jeff Wise is a New York-based magazine writer and author of Extreme Fear: The Science of Your Mind in Danger. A contributing editor at Popular Mechanics and Travel + Leisure, he specializes in aviation, adventure, and psychology. He tweets as @ManvBrain and blogs at JeffWise.net.
About the author of your second link:
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The world population will peak at 8.7 billion people in 2055 and then decline to 8 billion by 2100, according to new research by Deutsche Bank. Its projections contrast drastically with previous forecasts by the United Nations (UN), which sees world population continuing to rise until 2100. "The world is approaching a major turning point in its demographic trajectory and we think that the shift is likely to be sooner and sharper than mainstream projections suggest," said Deutsche's global strategist, Sanjeev Sanyal.
Dude is a bank strategist.
I'd recommend you take more seriously the UN's and Census Bureau's methodologies over random author's who have personal agendas to satisfy.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:34 pm to Kentucker
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China could take Eastern Russia in a week or less.
Historically, fricking with Russia IN Russia doesn't work out too well.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes. Because it's accurate and people still believe the fallacy of unsustainable population growth.
Projections for future growth are best based on past trends, especially recent ones. Those trends show an exponential increase in the rate of human population growth.
As Benjamin Disraeli said, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:40 pm to NIH
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Historically, fricking with Russia IN Russia doesn't work out too well.
Russia has 148 million people. China has 1.2 billion people and the world's biggest economy. I'd pick China to obliterate Russia in a conflict.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:53 pm to Kentucker
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Projections for future growth are best based on past trends, especially recent ones. Those trends show an exponential increase in the rate of human population growth.
Absolutely not. LINK
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The 2012 UN Report on the State of the World Population contains good news. Global population growth is slowing down. For the period 2010-15 the UN expects an annual increase of only 70 million additional human beings compared to 80 millions around the turn of the century. Total fertility will decline to 2, the level of demographic stability.
Europe leads the way. 10 European countries already experience a decline in population, however small. With the exception of Germany, all countries are situated in Eastern Europe or the Balkans, with Bulgaria and Ukraine experiencing the severest decline of 0.7 and 0.5 per cent respectively during 2010-15.
This is excellent news for the planet. The fewer the number of human beings the better the prospects for a sustainable future.
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The only area of concern is Sub Saharan Africa where the population growth will grow due to medical breakthroughs and increases in quality of life. Everywhere else is and will continue to experience slower growth rates.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:00 pm to BuddyLAM
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Isn't japan having decreased birth rates right now too?
I remember reading that their birth rates will fall below their replacement rates in 25 years, meaning their population is essentially flat at present and will begin decreasing at that point.
EDIT - I'm wrong, their population is already declining. I'll try to find what I read about their replacement rate decrease, but it was pretty interesting.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:20 pm to Kentucker
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Russia has 148 million people. China has 1.2 billion people and the world's biggest economy. I'd pick China to obliterate Russia in a conflict.
That's a topic for discussion in another thread ... but you'd be wrong. So if another thread is started, you don't wanna try to support that contention unless you're prepared to show how wrong you are.
Anyways, in the meantime, here is the current death rate as it is happening ...
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